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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:58 pm    Post subject: should our police be armed? Reply with quote

With the increase of guns and danger to police force ,should they be like america and be allowed to carry weapons?and use them if nessacary?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No.

Americans are stoopid.

Once we arm our police we're on a slippery slope.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't see a need for it either - I've never felt comfortable when abroad talking with armed cops.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you will find that there are a lot more armed police about than you think. I don't see a need for the "normal" police to be armed outside of the metropolitan area of Greater London yet because I think once they tool up they will raise the stakes with the scum that they are trying to catch.

According to a police friend of mine, only two live rounds of ammunition have been used against an assailant so far in Wiltshire by the police - and the marksman missed with both shots. This was only a couple of years ago during a seige in Trowbridge.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GTB wrote:
I think you will find that there are a lot more armed police about than you think. I don't see a need for the "normal" police to be armed outside of the metropolitan area of Greater London yet because I think once they tool up they will raise the stakes with the scum that they are trying to catch.

According to a police friend of mine, only two live rounds of ammunition have been used against an assailant so far in Wiltshire by the police - and the marksman missed with both shots. This was only a couple of years ago during a seige in Trowbridge.


I fully agree GTB and I think most people would be amazed at the number of armed vehicles driving around Wiltshire especially when we have a visit from Royalty.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are something like 30,000 deaths a year in the USA due to small arms fire ("if they weren't so fat they'd make smaller targets" says Mark Thomas).

Armed police here in UK?  Big fat hairy NO!
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yeah, and from what I was told by a local copper, 2 of every 3 US police officers who are shot are done so with their own weapons!
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geddi wrote:
Oh yeah, and from what I was told by a local copper, 2 of every 3 US police officers who are shot are done so with their own weapons!


Yes, I'd heard that too - a quick search on Google has shown up a few sites saying 75% of cops get shot with their own weapon, and 95% of civilians are shot with theirs! I'm not sure how correct those values are, but certainly a worry and a reason not to introduce more guns onto the streets (albeit legally).
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clunk - that poster is hilarious!  Nice one.  LOL

On a more serious note, arms sales from the UK are second only to the USA.  Some of these arms sales end up back in the UK in the hands of drug gangs and human traffickers.

It is a myth that we benefit from arms sales abroad, whether it is in the form of landmines, specialist ammunition or armed and combat ready war planes, we all, man woman and child, subsidise the arms industry to the tune of around £900 million per year.  That's more than the Millennium Dome cost, every year.
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