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Local lass
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 Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: bye election 31st January |
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| Peter Dolman wrote: | .
Not to decry law & order as an issue but I do not think Calne has more problems than it used to have or than other towns. As Robert says I believe its more of a perceptions issue, I have walked through the town late at night without any problems! |
 I WOULD NOT WALK THROUGH THE TOWN AT NIGHT.I KNOW OF TWO PEOPLE WHO GOT HELL OF A BEATING FOR NO GOOD REASON AT ALL AND THE POLICE COULDNT CARE LESS .THEY KNEW WHO THEY WERE BUT THEY WERE UNDER AGE SO NOTHING COULD BE DONE.
THERE IS A BIG PROBLEM WITH GROUPS OF YOUTHS IN THIS TOWN.
OUTSIDE MY OWN FROUNT DOOR I HAS SEE A GROUP OF AROUND 20 YOUTHS ABOUT 15-20 JUMPIMG ON HEDGES,GRAFFITTING ROAD SIGNS AND EVEN TRYING TO SET LIGHT TO TELEGRAPH POLES.THEY WERE DRINKING AND SWEARING.
I WOULDNT GO AND HAVE A GO AT THEM I JUST WATCHED THEM.
THE PROBLEM IS IS ANY OF THEM WERE TO GET HURT IT WOULD BE MY FAULT AND I WOULD BE THE ONE IN TROUBLE.
PLUS I WOULD NOT WANT THE REPURCUSSIONS FROM THEM.
THE POLICE COULD NOT GIVE A DAM .THEY MOVE THEM FROM THE TOWN CENTRE AND THEN THEY GO INTO THE HOUSES.
EVER GONE UP ONE STOP AT NIGHT YOU NORMALLY FIND A LOAD OF YOUTHS UP THERE AT NIGHT IVE BEEN IN THE SHOP AND ONE KID STARTED RIDNG HIS BIKE THROUGH THE SHOP.
WHAT I CAN SEEM TO GET IS WHERE THE HELL ARE THE PARENTS OF THESE YOUTH? :?
| Peter Dolman wrote: | .
There is also a problem with traffic in the ward. Back in the early 90's at the public enquiry to the proposed bypass objectors, me included, were promised that Lickhill Road would not become a rat run, but this is what it is. |
NOT ONLY A RAT RUN BUT A VERY DANGEROUS ROAD.THE PERSON WHO DESIGNED THAT AREA NEEDS TO BE SACKED .I CAN ONLY ASSUM THAT HE DOSNT LIVE IN CALNE.
THE SCHOOLS CAR PARK IS THE FOOTBALL CLUB BUT THERE IS NO PEDESTIAN CROSSINGS FOR THE KIDS ON SCHOOL ROAD MOST PEOPLE PARK THERE CAR ON THE ESTATE OR ON SCHOOL ROAD.MANY A TIME THE SCHOOLS HAVE PLACED NOTICES IN THE NEWS LETTER ASKING FOR PARENTS NOT TO PARK THERE BUT ITS PERFECTLY LEGAL TO DO SO.
AND UNTILL A PROPER PREDESTRIAN CROSSING AND SIGNS SAYING THAT THERE IS A SCHOOL THERE THEN MANY PARENTS INCLUDING ARE SELFS WILL USE THAT ESTATE TO PARK IN.THERE HAS ALSO BEEN A LOT OF COMPLAINTS MADE BY THE RESIDENTS BUT TO BE HONEST THEY SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT BEFORE THEY BROUGHT THERE HOUSES.SOMEONE WILL GET KILLED UP THERE AND NO DOUBT IT WILL BE A CHILD.
ANOTHER EXTREAMLY BAD TRAFFIC AREA IS WOOD STREET PEOPLE DO NOT ALWAYS GIVE WAY AND IF YOU ARE COMING FROM CHIPPENHAM IN TO CALNE THERE IS NORMALLY A LINE OF TRAFFIC BLOCKING THE VIEW OF THE ZEBRA CROSSING.WHY THAT WAS CHANGED FORM THE LIGHTS TO THE ZEBRA IS JUST PLAN STUPITY.
| Peter Dolman wrote: | .
The additional houses behind Tesco's, Tesco's itself, the houses in Lickhill Road and a planned extention to St Fynamore School are only going to add to the traffic problems.
The councils answer is to narrow the road but I can remember when the odd numbered houses in Lickhill Road "lost" some of their front gardens so the road could be widened! |
I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THE ROADS WERE NARROW ANOUGH :shock: BECAUSE OF THE NARROWING OF WOODSTREET SCHOOL ROAD,BRAEMOR ROAD ARE USED AS RAT RUNS TO GET OUT OF CALNE.
MY OTHER HALF WORKS IN TROWBRIDGE IT IS QUICKER FOR HIM TO GET UP TO THE BY PASS THEN GO THROUGH DERRY HILL TO GET TO SANDY LANE TO GET ON SANDRIDGE THAN WHAT IT IS GOING THROUGH TOWN.
GO UP SCHOOL ROAD IN A CAR GO IN IRIS CLOSE TAKE THE FIRST LEFT INTO A CULDESAC TAKE NOTICE OF THE AMOUNT OF CARS ON THE SCHOOL RUN WHAT ENTER THAT CULDE SAC .KIDS HAVE TO CROSS THAT CULDESAC .THEN TAKE A LOOK AT SCHOOL ROAD DURING THE SCHOOL RUN .TAKE NOTE OF THE AMOUNT OF CARS,ALSO THE SPEED IN WHICH PEOPLE TRAVEL DOWN THAT ROAD.
WHEN I CHILD DOES GET RUN OVER AND THE PARENTS ASK WHY THERE IS NO PEDESTRIAN CROSSING ON THAT ROAD I HOPE THE COUNCIL CAN GIVE THEM A DAM GOOD ANSWER COS I CAN NOT THINK OF WHY THERE SHOULDNT BE ONE.
AFTER ALL THEY PUT ONE IN ON THE A4 BECAUSE SOMEONE WAS KILLED .WHATS IT GOING TO TAKE TO GET ONE PUT IN ON SCHOOL ROAD?![/quote]
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rosco
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| Local lass wrote: | Robert wrote-As a member of the public I have attended quite a few council meetings and nearly always have been the only member of the public present - why doesn't anyone care?
The meetings are not publisised how do you find out when they are?
Also you are right most general public do not care about calne unless it affects them directly.It is a very wrong view to have.  |
Must admit I have no idea when they are, and might well come if they were publicised better now and again, perhaps the schedule could be published on this forum somewhere? |
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As i have been challenged to go to the next one i would be intrested to know when it is.
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| Local lass wrote: | | I can not understand why the police station closed in the same week a national newspaper branded calne one of the worst towns for trouble. :shock: from what i understand poice come from melksham and trowbridge for calne. |
Don't know where you got that from :shock: : according to this article (unless things have changed) there are still some police in Calne and they get extras coming from Chippenham.
http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk...1194368.0.police_cuts_slammed.php |
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The H&G article says that it was the enquiry office that was being closed, not the station itself - that website seems to say the same thing.
Where did you see about police looking after Calne from Melksham or Trowbridge from? That seems incredible if true! |
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| rosco wrote: | | Local lass wrote: | Robert wrote-As a member of the public I have attended quite a few council meetings and nearly always have been the only member of the public present - why doesn't anyone care?
The meetings are not publisised how do you find out when they are?
Also you are right most general public do not care about calne unless it affects them directly.It is a very wrong view to have. |
Must admit I have no idea when they are, and might well come if they were publicised better now and again, perhaps the schedule could be published on this forum somewhere? |
There's a schedule of Council meetings here:
http://www.calne.gov.uk/calne-ind..._and_democracy/calne_meetings.htm
might be worth checking with the visitor & information centre to see which ones are the best ones to sit in on. |
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| rosco wrote: |
The H&G article says that it was the enquiry office that was being closed, not the station itself - that website seems to say the same thing.
Where did you see about police looking after Calne from Melksham or Trowbridge from? That seems incredible if true! |
i will try and find the related artice rosco .either way the police station being closed to the public is still very wrong for a town of this size.
if i go to pick up my oh at work i leave home at about 430 pm normally i follow the cop cars going back to melksham and trowbridge. |
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Peter Dolman
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:17 pm Post subject: bye election 31st January |
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The council meetings are publicised on the towns web site and in the notice boards outside the old post office (face value) and out side the library. You can also go to the information centre and obtain a list of all the meetings and their dates. You can also have a list of which councillors sit on which committee and every year you can ask for a list showing how many meetings the councillors bother to attend!
At the start of each meeting there is a 15 minute session where members of the public can make a statement or ask a question. In May there is an annual meeting when the committee chairs make a report on what their committee has done, an interesting meeting to attend.
The November meeting sets the precept (tax) for the forthcoming year and is also a meeting worth attending.
It would be good to see more people take an interest in what their council does, its no good complaining after decisions have been made! |
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| Robert Baggs wrote: |
Another of the concerns I have is the apathy and lack of involvement of Calne folk in making decisions about the future of the town. I think more needs to be done to involve them by utilising local media and publications such as the Town Crier so at least they know what is going on and how they may contribute to change.
As a member of the public I have attended quite a few council meetings and nearly always have been the only member of the public present - why doesn't anyone care?
The turnout for the election on 31st January will be interesting and I hope it is high but if it isn't it shows the electorate don't really cares so why should anyone else? Calne will probably end up being managed not as a result of public opinion but as the powers that be see fit and this is not always in the best interests of the town. I just hope I don't hear those who couldn't be bothered to vote complaining! |
Whilst I agree that there is a problem with apathy, not only in Calne but in the country as a whole, around politics I do not fully endorse your view that this is solely down to the public. I believe politicians both national and local should shoulder some responsibility for this as most people take the view that the majority are in it for themselves and that there is no difference between the two major parties. If this country is to avoid slipping into the malaise of political apathy it is imperative that the two party stranglehold is broken and newer more radical ideas are put to the electorate. |
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