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Top Dog · Site Moderator Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Posts: 1574 Status:

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The national front want to set up a office in chippenham.
How would you feel if this was in calne?

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WeAreSTFC · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: The national front

Local lass · Calnetalk Oracle Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 2590 Status:

i wouldnt see a problem in it.
its like the woman who refused to let her daughter go in a taxi because the firm had been taken over by a bnp or something .thats just a huge over reaction.

Bear · Bentlian Oldboy Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 822 Status:

I have to say that even if you dont agree with their policies you have to agree with their right to political expression within the scope of the law. Every time I hear someone say that this or that party should be banned I think of all the dictatorships around the world where benevolent leadership has come from a party who banned other parties and realise that there havent been any. Think about it.

Geddi · Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:08 am Post subject:

I have to agree with Bear here. I have campaigned against the BNP prior to an election in Calne where Mr Robert Baggs was standing as BNP candidate. I have also had both personal and professonal correspondence with Mr Baggs about other matters and have no problem with that at all.

To ban an organisation is threefold bad:

1) it will drive that org under ground where it is tricky to see what it is up to or who its members are.
2)it lends the org a certain 'outlaw' status which can be very attractive to younger and easily influenced people.
3)it means we have even narrower political choice and no meter with which to measure public reaction to main stream parties.

There may also be other reasons why not to ban them, but I can't think of any right now.

Voltaire: "I may not agree with what you are saying, but I will defend you right to say it with my life."
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GTB · Bentlian Oldboy Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 885 Status:

Voltaire was a clever man alright! :wink:
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Local lass · Calnetalk Oracle Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 2590 Status:

At least the bnp has the balls to say what every one else is thinking and throws pc out of the window.

Robert Baggs · Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:35 pm Post subject:

Be careful not to confuse the National Front with the BNP, as they are most definitely not the same.

The NF are a very small hard-line group who make no impact in the political arena, whilst the BNP are a growing political force that, it is hoped, will tomorrow show that there are a great many people who are fed up with the big three parties and the state of this once great country of ours and believe it is now time for change.

Robert
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Geddi · Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:21 pm Post subject:

I have to add to my last post that in my dealings both personally and professionally with Mr Robert Baggs I have no problem with him as a person. I did not make that very clear in my previous post.

'Local Lass'. I can not agree with you at all. The BNP is most definately NOT saying what I am saying, nor most of the people who I associate with. So when you say "the BNP are only saying what everyone else is thinking" you are very far from the truth.

Don't get me wrong, I agree that Political Correctness is way out of line with current (or any time I suspect) thinking in the UK. I find it abhorrent that a child at school can be given the morning after pill (a medication which has no proof it even works at all) yet the parent can not be told! This by a government who claim to be all for family values (but I suppose they all claim this). I also am aware that the most famous politically correct person in history was Adolf Hitler! He was also vegetarian, anti-smoking and tea-total. Scary really when ya think about it.

National Front and BNP are different, but unfortunately they are inextricably linked, mainly with the idea of racism. It is sad but true that both have been involved in racism and anti-social behaviour.

In Calne, I know that I find Robert Baggs to be infinitely less racist, and far more genteel in his conversation than other local councillors who stand for other parties (you know who you are you foul-mouthed overweight monstrosity!).

I am not even certain why the BNP or National Front would wish to make a stance here in North Wiltshire where we have a relatively low % of non-whites and also low % of recent immigrants. Can anyone explain this to me please?
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Robert Baggs · Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:31 pm Post subject:

Thanks for your kind words Geddi, I'm glad I don't fall into the monstrosity category! :lol:

I know we will never agree politically but I think your question is a little biased with regard to why the BNP feels it needs to stand in Wiltshire when there is no immigration problem.

I am sure you are aware that we have as wide a range of policies as any other party and this can be confirmed by looking at the web-site www.bnp.org.uk.

Very briefly, I believe the BNP to be the only party to stand against the mainstram parties attempts to destroy the fabric of this country and those things we were once admired for. You only have to look at crime, the NHS, education etc. Immigration is but one element in all of this.

At the end of the day I don't think any other party has the interests of Joe Public in their mind, their politicians are only out for what they can get.
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