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Local lass Calnetalk Oracle

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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:42 am Post subject: The bnp in calne |
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In corsham a bnp member won a seat which was protested by the locals.if this happened in calne do you think it would be protested does the bnp have a place in calne?
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Kizzy Born and Bred Local

Joined: 30 Jul 2007 Posts: 529 Status:  Location: Melksham
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the BNP counciller in Corsham only get in because no-one stood against him? I'm sure I've read or heard that somewhere. I maybe wrong. _________________ aut viam inveniam aut faciam! |
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Local lass Calnetalk Oracle

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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Kizzy wrote: | | Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the BNP counciller in Corsham only get in because no-one stood against him? I'm sure I've read or heard that somewhere. I maybe wrong. |
Yes i think he did.If they were that bothered about him getting in why didnt no one stand against him? |
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Bear Bentlian Oldboy

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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| As your asking for a personal opinion then I have to say that I believe the BNP has a place not only in Calne but the country as a whole. You may not like the medias perception of them but how many of us believe that we should not be in the common market and how many of us believe that there are two many imigrants being allowed into this already overpopulated country where there is a housing shortage and the NHS is at breaking point and for all of you out there under 45 there will probably be no old age pension when you reach 65. Well only one party in this country will address these issues and thats the BNP like them or not. |
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Local lass Calnetalk Oracle

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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| Bear wrote: | | As your asking for a personal opinion then I have to say that I believe the BNP has a place not only in Calne but the country as a whole. You may not like the medias perception of them but how many of us believe that we should not be in the common market and how many of us believe that there are two many imigrants being allowed into this already overpopulated country where there is a housing shortage and the NHS is at breaking point and for all of you out there under 45 there will probably be no old age pension when you reach 65. Well only one party in this country will address these issues and thats the BNP like them or not. |
There are to many imigrants being allowed in this country .austraila has the right idea you are only allowed to live there if ytou have a trade and you do it of your own back. |
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GTB Bentlian Oldboy

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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Bear wrote: | | Well only one party in this country will address these issues and thats the BNP like them or not. |
UKIP also has this kind of policy in its manefesto.
At a more local level, ie. Calne, would it make much difference if we had a BNP councilor? Not everything they say can be deemed extreme but if they did try to impliment some sort of radical new policy on the town of Calne it would be heavily out voted by the rest of the council. Most politics is run on a happy medium of what everybody wants so that most radical ideas are either shouted down or just plain ignored. |
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Bear Bentlian Oldboy

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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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UKIP also has this kind of policy in its manefesto.
At a more local level, ie. Calne, would it make much difference if we had a BNP councilor? Not everything they say can be deemed extreme but if they did try to impliment some sort of radical new policy on the town of Calne it would be heavily out voted by the rest of the council. Most politics is run on a happy medium of what everybody wants so that most radical ideas are either shouted down or just plain ignored.[/quote]
I agree to a limited degree with your comment re UKIP although they strike me as if they are a one policy party i.e. get out of Europe.
Regarding whether or not a BNP councillor would be effective in Calne my response would be why only consider what one councillor can do why not elect a whole council full |
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Attrebates Aspiring Calnite

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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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Surely, evolution is the way forward. Revolution, as suggested by previous correspondents can bring unexpected, irreversible situations which do not suit the requirements of the majority.
Nationally we are not masters of our own destiny and become less so with every concession to the "European Bureacrats", so maybe UKIP is right and we should opt out immediately. But what would the alternatives be with regard to our trade, earnings and future profitability? We can no longer rely on previous markets such as Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc.
I'm not saying that they are wrong but IF we are to change our direction it needs to be in a planned, organised fashion with the plans and achievements set out for all to see the direction and progress.
Locally, does Calne have a problem with ethnicity, race, colour, religion or any other potential flash points? Where is the local mosque or synagogue to be built? Perhaps they're already here. If so, are they a problem? I think not. Many of our ancestors, grandparents and parents gave up their lives to prevent dictatorships from ruling the world and allow every one the freedoms that we take (even unthinkingly or recklessly) for granted. Let's hope our children don't need to do the same, although some already are in Iraq, Afganistan etc.
The whole point of this is that EVERY ONE out there is trying to sell you something. It is probably more advantageous to the seller than the purchaser. It may be money, it may be political or religious power. CAVEAT EMPTOR. It is up to you the purchaser to see through their salesmanship and buy only what you are 100% sure you want. There are no guarantees or money back offers in the real businesses of religion or politics.
That's a lot for a chap that wasn't going to say much. |
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Bear Bentlian Oldboy

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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Well said Attrebates although I dont necessarily agree with everything you said nor would I agree 100% with anybodys views any more than they would with mine I would defend to the death your right to say them which is what our ancestors have done in the past.
Now a lot of people have put forward your argument about trade as as you quite rightly point out the old commonwealth countries can no longer be a guaranteed market however as Britain becomes less and less of a manufacturing nation and more and more a service nation particularly in the field of banking it would be advantageous to adopt a swiss type neutrality and work with all nations of the earth irrespective of religion race or creed always remembering the old adage slowly slowly catchy monkey |
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Attrebates Aspiring Calnite

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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Support noted and appreciated. I have no great politcal axe to grind but WE (GBP) do need to have a very clear view of the colour and nature of the monkey we wish to catch.
I cannot see any one politcal party which will meet all of my perceived needs, Great Britain & Calne in particular is a very stable and generally pleasant place to be. Long live the moderating influence of our councils in all their guises, but they need to be far more open in their plans and aims. There MAY be a time for revolution (as there has been in the past), but it ain't now.
In the words of many a fairy tale. "GO VERY CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR." :!: |
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