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Geddi
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clunk - (great name)

You ask me what's wrong with using a 4x4 for a school run?  I'd normally use words of one or two syllables, except I know from the way you write that you aint all stupid.

It was part of a survey (FoE I think) some years ago which discovered that over half of all parents who drove their kids to school did so because they were: "worried about the amount of traffic on the roads which endangered their kids."  

What they also discovered was that the parents taking their kids to school by car made up about 60% of all traffic on the roads in the vicinity of the schools surveyed!  Quite something really.  A solution to a problem which is caused by the solution.  I am certain there is a name for this phenomena, I just can't think of it.

Besides this, hasn't your friend heard of air quality?  Climate change?  CO2 footprint?  Your friend has kids so I am guessing your friend would want the best for their future.  With all the implications in mind about what burning fossil fuels does to both local air quality and the wider implications (even GW Bush has accepted that human CO2 emmissions are causing increased global temperatures with profound consequences), isn't this question just a tad silly?

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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geddi wrote:
Clunk - (great name)

You ask me what's wrong with using a 4x4 for a school run?  I'd normally use words of one or two syllables, except I know from the way you write that you aint all stupid.

It was part of a survey (FoE I think) some years ago which discovered that over half of all parents who drove their kids to school did so because they were: "worried about the amount of traffic on the roads which endangered their kids."  

What they also discovered was that the parents taking their kids to school by car made up about 60% of all traffic on the roads in the vicinity of the schools surveyed!  Quite something really.  A solution to a problem which is caused by the solution.  I am certain there is a name for this phenomena, I just can't think of it.

Besides this, hasn't your friend heard of air quality?  Climate change?  CO2 footprint?  Your friend has kids so I am guessing your friend would want the best for their future.  With all the implications in mind about what burning fossil fuels does to both local air quality and the wider implications (even GW Bush has accepted that human CO2 emmissions are causing increased global temperatures with profound consequences), isn't this question just a tad silly?

Buying a 4x4 just for the school run is wrong. But if the 4x4 is the only family car and it is used for leisure or utilitarian, then what is the point of buying a second car for the school run?

I also drive my kids to school, and have no desire to stop doing so.

As for the carbon footprint, that range rover in the pic is converted to run on lpg. Mainly as 9mpg is cheaper in lpg than unleaded.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair answer Clunk, perhaps..  but can you please help me to understand why the need to drive to school at all?  

Calne is a small town with no place very far from anywhere else within the town boundary.  Walking to school is very good for kids, in all but the most inclement weathers it is good for the immune systems of the kids, it wakes them up a lot more than simply strolling into a parked car from home then from the car to the school.

(P.S. this is not a personal attack as all my kids were also driven to school, sometimes when school was literally a few dozen metres from their home, but this was not my own choice.)
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geddi wrote:
Fair answer Clunk, perhaps..  but can you please help me to understand why the need to drive to school at all?  
I live 8 miles away from the school.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK thanks for that.  My kids went to school out of town as well.  I was not happy with that and let their mum know I was not.  Not forever, but I did.  It cost her ... blah blah, and I would remind her of her choice.  She did, as a kind of excuse, work in the village for about 10 years so was going there anyway, but in this case, the chicken came first, so to speak so she worked where the kids attended school.

You know when I smoked I could find a million excuses for me to smoke.  Whatever our personal habits, passtimes or whatever are unpopular with others, we always find 'reasons' or excuses for us doing them.  

I trip myself up for doing the same even now and I kick myself up the backside and remind myself that ALL evils, as well as pleasures, have excuses behind them.
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Whats your bugbear? Reply with quote

Top Dog wrote:
What gets you mad?


People who are over opinionated.
Jehova's Witnesses that drag their kids with them.
Drug users (of the illegal variety)
Drug dealers.
Hippies.
Enviromentalists.
Rascists.
Vandals.
New age travellers.
American chat shows (Springer, Opra, etc)
Hollyoaks (because my daughter HAS to watch it religiously!)
Muslim extremists (seen some horrific videos)
People who can't say things to your face.

That'll do, you asked the question! :lol:
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oi!! i dont always watch it! :bootyshake:
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes you do!!!!!! You usually watch the days episode on normal tv, then you watch the following days episode on satellite!!! Evil Mind  :lol:
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh god...... blocks on his soap box again  :lol:

However i do agree with most apart from hollyoaks....... ive got back into that again  :wink:
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

never really bothered with holly oaks never appealed.
sick of soap at the moment most have the same big story line Roll eyes
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