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Robert Baggs
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I am not sure where the £80 comes from but considering what we pay in council tax it is a paltry amount.
I most certainly agree that this is a good idea but you have to ask about the timing of the actions by the UKIP councillors. John Ireland has been a councillor for several years so why not raise this issue before? Is it at all possible this is a cynical ploy to make this an issue now at a time there is a local by-election to fight, particularly when the by-election was caused by a UKIP resignation.
One of the 3 BNP members that John Ireland mentioned that he didn't talk to (I'm sure he did, as I was one of them!) in his comment on thisiswiltshire has been saying for years that the council should fly the flag. Every other country in the world has no problem in flying their own flag so why not us. I am sure the majority of Calne people feel this is not up for debate. This is Britain and the Union Flag should be flown. If we don't fly it, I am sure that soon we will be expected to fly the EU circle of stars rag, I'm sure that would be very popular!
Rob
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Local lass
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as of yet no one has come up with a good idea as to why the flag shouldnt be flown.
13 councillours voted against the flag being up why???
its bugger all to do with the cost its seems the counsillors are playing football politics. |
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Harris
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:25 pm Post subject: Fly the Flag |
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Xpost from This is Wiltshire...
| Quote: | An extract from the minutes of the Leighton-Linslade Town Council Planning and Environment Committee Meeting held on Wednesday 22 August 2007 at 1930 Hours
FLAG FLYING CONSULTATION
The Committee received a consultation from the Department for Culture, Media and Sport relating to the flying of the Union flag on Government buildings. Members noted that at present the Union flag should be flown on 18 fixed days – many relating to the Royal Family. It was agreed that in the interests of fairness and to celebrate pride in nationality the Union Flag should be flown at all times. Members requested that consideration be given to the erection of another flag pole (possibly illuminated) at The White House as they wished to continue flying the Town Council flag on the existing pole.
RECOMMENDED : that Council agree to the flying of the Union Flag at all times from The White House and that an illuminated flag pole be erected to effect this development.
Well done Leighton-Linslade Town Council who have made an entirely reasoned and patriotic judgement – in complete contrast to Calne Town Council who continue to refuse to give any valid explanation as to why they have taken their current and unpatriotic position over the flying of the Union Flag.
The Union flag should fly throughout the year from all civil buildings—town halls, council buildings, all Government Department buildings and from every school. The Union Flag is a symbol of unity that cuts across divisions such as religion, ethnic background and class – the Union Flag represents all British people.
The Union Flag is a flag that the vast majority of British people are proud of, a flag under which many many people have proudly fought and too many have given their lives.
The fact that the Union flag now flies from a growing number of Government Department buildings is encouraging and entirely the right thing to do. Calne Town Council should follow this growing movement and have an obligation to do so as a rapidly increasing number of people in Calne desire it.
There is nothing wrong with the Union flag; we should be extremely proud of it. The people of Calne want to show their loyalty and patriotism and their support of our brave service personnel by flying the Union Flag from the Town Hall. Calne Town Council’s vote against this move is flagrantly disloyal, unpatriotic and shows a complete lack of respect for our Armed Forces and the wishes of the people of Calne. Their decision is – quite bluntly – baffling. |
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Local lass
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| couldnt agree more. |
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Bear
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| Spot on harris any ideas how we get the council to comply |
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Peter Dolman
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| Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:18 am Post subject: flag flying |
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the council rules won't let them debate an issue for a least 6 months after a vote, unless 75% of the council agree to do so. with the vote against flying the flag permanently you will have to wait until May/June full council meeting to force the issue again. unless you can persuade 75% of 19 ie 15 councillors to think again.
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Top Dog
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What are the main objectives to flying the union jack all the time ?
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Peter Dolman
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if I remember correctly Top Dog it was that it would devalue the flag and that historically it has only been flown on special ocassions. the majority of councillors present (13 to 2) felt that it should remain that way.
the councillors who voted in favour were J Ireland & D Bland. you can obtain the names of the councillors who voted against by checking the minutes of the council meeting on the towns web site. there will be a list of all the councillors who attended the meeting and those who were absent.
a reported objection of cost (£80) was not discussed and was not the reason for the resolution failing.
i attended the council meeting as a member of the public. |
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Local lass
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: Re: flag flying |
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| Peter Dolman wrote: | | the council rules won't let them debate an issue for a least 6 months after a vote, unless 75% of the council agree to do so. with the vote against flying the flag permanently you will have to wait until May/June full council meeting to force the issue again. unless you can persuade 75% of 19 ie 15 councillors to think again. |
considering the subject it seems to be 6 months is long winded.
i did read in the gazette that the council are spilt over this. |
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rosco
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Top Dog wrote: | | What are the main objectives to flying the union jack all the time ? |
Objectives or objections? |
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