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Local lass · Calnetalk Oracle Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 4792 Status:

no, they were there becase they could afford it

no they were there supporting there club just like we were .
how do you describe a supporter someone who follows the game,someone who sings the loudest ,someone who fights for there club?????
When i go to football its to watch and support a team that i love.to soak up the atmosphere.not to go out get drunk and end up in fights no matter who they are playing .

WeAreSTFC · Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:32 pm Post subject:

Local lass · Calnetalk Oracle Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 4792 Status:

no its not different its still football.
going to a game is not about the money its about the love of your club.
(ok agree its a lot better if the tickets wernt so expensive)
I have taken my son to watch them and the last thing i want in a ground is a load of fighting there is just no need for it.
and those who do fight arnt real supporters there just sad individuls who are childish and just want something to brag about in the pub.
football is a family sport.

WeAreSTFC · Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:48 pm Post subject:

Local lass · Calnetalk Oracle Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 4792 Status:

I think families should be allowed to go without fear, and hooligans should also be allowed to do their thing.

Fenced off area's

familes should go with out fear and so should other people.hooligans should be banned from going why should they be aloud to spoil peoples fun.

but face it, rich people and families don't generate atmosphere

the atmosphere in all the games i have been to has been fantstic and there was no fighting.there was singing and a unity.
in barcelona in 99 again the atmosphere was brilliant there was no hostillity there is no need.
english football has had such a bad reputation through holigans and its put a lot of people of the game.

take a look at rugby its a rougher game than football ,its played by some massive blokes who dont go down every second claiming its a foal they play on with cuts.you never hear of rugby fans fighting .yet people have more respect for rugby than what they do football.

WeAreSTFC · Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:13 am Post subject:

Bear · Mile Elm Minstrel Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 1001 Status:

I am sorry to say it STFC but you appear to have started a discussion about hooliganism in football wether you like it or not. Now when I was alot younger there were three types of supporters, there were hooligans, beer monsters and "ordinary" fans. Hooligans were always up for a fight with other hooligans and beer monsters were there for the crack and the match but would sometimes get involved in fights if provoked whilst ordinary fans were left to get on with it. All this changed after Hysel when some Italians were murdered by the stupid actions of some English football followers. I was a beer monster in those days and did on occassion get involved however when the moronic behaviour of those mindless Liverpool followers caused those deaths it was a step too far and I would never condone what they did. Now as I understand it that all stemmed from the sort of behaviour you recounted as having hapened on Saturday which got out of hand and that is why I would not condone the way in which you say some supporters behaved and which has led to this debate.
As for the rich having ruined football I can see where you are coming from and there is an element of truth in what you say although the hooligans of the 70s and 80s have led us to this.