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Local lass · Calnetalk Oracle Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 4792 Status:

unfortunately peter restricting the amount of traffic will never happen,that is one of the main veins in Calne.by restricting the traffic what goes up there will only push the cars into the estate.
what I don't get if that when they do any new development they use roads what need to be much wider and houses what don't have drives which is daft .People need top drive ,to work,school,where ever they need to go.This wasn't the case years ago as most people worked in the town,now very few do considering how many is in the town.
I know people who live in Studley and work in London and commute every day.most people in town work either Chippenham, Devizes,or else where.

Peter Dolman · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:21 am Post subject:

Lickhill Road was never planned to be a major road into the town, thats the whole point. the plan was that people would use the byepass. Lickhill road was never designed to take the volume of traffic it is now having to take. there is no way that it can be amended to do so.

there is no easy answer but I believe the only way forward for future generations is for less traffic on the road. I accept that its not something that people want to hear.
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Local lass · Calnetalk Oracle Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 4792 Status:

The planners should have forseen this problem the road may not have been ment as a main road and that people use the by-pass but it hasnt turned out that way.if you are on the north of calne what would you do to get in to town?take the new estate would they go all around the by pass ,get snarled up in the traffic in town or take the road what leads straight in to town.?
peter you live on lickhill road do you take the by-pass to go sainsbury?
also the road also leads to the by-pass .
this is why i say that the planners should have thought about it when it when the houses and roads were built around the north of calne.

Peter Dolman · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:20 am Post subject:

the planners did consider the impact on lickhill rd and stated that they would not allow it to become a rat run.
The builders of lickhill road of course could not envisage a development of the size that occured. my house was built in 1931.
which set of planners are we criticising?

you cannot ignore the fact that there are to many cars on the road.

I walk, cycle or drive into town via Lickhill Road but why would I not, I have done so for almost 50 years!

There were over 100 objections to the byepass, and to the houses. the county highways department had refused to build it (the byepass) as it was not a priority and that it would not solve the issues of traffic in the town.
So I suppose any traffic planning would have resulted in the byepass not being built!

I CONTEND THAT THE ROAD WAS ONLY BUILT SO SOMEONE WOULD PROFIT FROM THE HOUSE BUILDING!
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Local lass · Calnetalk Oracle Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 4792 Status:

The planners who built the new housing on the north of calne,the planners who narrowed the road by the wheatsheaf there the ones im criticising.

Yes there may be to many cars on the road peter but like i said in a post up above this is due to the fact that many people do not work in the town.A car is a nessecity to most people.

so i take it that you walk into town or cycle you dont do a weekly shop in town?

some people can not do that,more often than not if they do a shop they take the car cos its easier for a start.You can not walk back from town with a weeks shopping.

due to the narrowing of the road by the wheatsheaf as we have discussed on here before it split the town as that is the only road to get into north town.if you live on the south of the town and want to go to sainsbueys ,yes it would be great isf they used the by pass all the way to get on oxford road but i doubt very few do,they would most likly use the narrow road or take the first right on the by pass getting on to the braemor road and lnorthend.

It is A HUGE PROBLEM FOR THE TOWN.

Peter Dolman · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:37 pm Post subject:

the byepass abd curzon are 2 different issues and are unconnected apart from both being traffic issues.

there has been a discussion about what impact the residents of the new estate have in the town and the majority view is that it is detremental. only a small minority have shopped in the town and yes most of them work elsewhere.

yes when I shop I walk, cycle or go by car dependant on how much I am buying and how much time I have.
I never use the byepass unless I am going to Chippenham. I don't have a problem going to golf at Blacklands at worse its a couple of minutes waiting (I would not have to). It sometimes takes longer to get through the traffic lights on the strand.

patience is a virtue after all
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Local lass · Calnetalk Oracle Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 4792 Status:

patience is a virtue peter but sometimes not a practical.When my ex was working in trowbidge we used to get out of calne using the school road ,go to derry hill and get on to sandy lane that way becuase other wise it would take far to long to go through calne at that time of the morning,it was quicker to go two miles out of are way.once you hit sandy land you could be in trowbridge within half a ahour.if you went through calne it used top take over half a ahour just to get through town.

Peter Dolman · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject:

sorry but I can't relate to that as it has never taken me more than 5 minutes to get from my home in lickhill road to london road. perhaps I am just lucky, but I have yet to win the lottery.
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Calne18 · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject:

going through the town centre at busy times such as 8ish is really busy and takes ages i have to agree Local lass and i prefer to drive out of my way than sit in traffic which isnt moving!

Maybe jus speed ramps by the doctors because it would slow down the initial speed of the cars but not increase traffic jams??? but i dont know!

win2212 · Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:57 pm Post subject:

So am I not the only one that uses the bypass even though its further round, but at least you are moving. And with the exception of hybird cars, and cars with engine Stop-Start, the rest of us will use less fuel when we keep the car on the move compared with sitting in traffic. What I do is think about what time of day it is. If I know its going to be packed with cars down town, I take the bypass. But if its another time, I may go straight down Lickhill road/North St.

Most people drive these days. They dont walk, and its mostly only kids that use push bikes. If you have an economical car, you may as well drive - even a short distance, as it wont cost hardly anything (I know about this since I downgraded to a smaller car!), and all but one car park in Calne is free.

Part of the increase in traffic is due to the St Marys School having their entrance/exit in North End, leading to Lickhill Road. Its like the invasion of 4X4's some days along there.

The issue with curzon St is not related to Nort St/Lickhill Road, but the reason for making the road more narrow, was to get local drivers to use the bypass. The idea was that if people did this whenever poss, there wouldnt be much traffic in Curzon St. Trucks, for example are forced to do this now, apart from deliveries. So with less traffic in this stretch of road, you may as well widen the path to make it safer for people walking along there.
......the problem is that car drivers insist on still going through the town, when most of them should be using the bypass.