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Chuck · Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 9:05 am Post subject:

Give the perfect option I'd love to add it to North Star or Bremhill as extra space and with a community rather than club bias. I had thought that one of the shops in the parade might work if vacant as another option or perhaps the Masons new building.

The new estate does need some sort of focus they seem very individual and in many cases of course not with roots locally and I would hope that with time and a shared facility we could develop a community feel. There will be much to discuss there as with the green spaces, kids playing, road condition, interesting Council Tax banding and school parking they have some issues.

We need to consult locally about this with local town and council representatives to get some forward plan in place.

Will you help if either Peter Sophy or I set this up it would be great to have your input.

Best regards,

Chuck

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Local lass · Calnetalk Oracle Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 4792 Status:

yes i would i live in north calne,play skittles in the north star and have a son in fynamor so that area affects me quite a deal

Chuck · Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 12:02 pm Post subject:

Brill, Have I canvassed you yet? It is me dropping of the literature so if you've had some it was me trying to talk to as many as possible. I am learning about the area slowly. Being fresh I do not have any pre conceptions and to be frank had not paid much attention to what has gone before. The Communty Centre seems to have been a bag of frogs a bit and there does not seem to be much consultation before action which means the public are a little out of the loop.

There is about £200K which is not enough for a stand alone centre but the plan has been to put flats above that was rejected probably rightly but we could possibly explore more money for the two existing centres to encourage them to be more open.

North Star's view was they felt there was enough 'trouble' already near them without attracting more people.

If we deliver the right product I would hope that we may all lok after the whole site better. It is unique to have such a set up 2 clubs and a football pitch and green space - just perfect if run maybe together or enbloc or whatever but ONLY if we can get buy in from all te stakeholders. Sorry local govt speak it make me crawl sometimes too.

It will be a good project to get our new Councillor stuck into with all the other necessary interested parties.

Cheers,

Chuck
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Chepfer · Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 1:45 pm Post subject:

Can i ask.

This £200,000 that is available for a community center. Is it for the people of North Calne ward only or is it for Calne as a whole ?

Chuck · Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 2:10 pm Post subject:

I believe it is Persimmon's contribution for such a facility ther is also supposed to be £60k for play equipment it is normal that such money use use in close proximity to the development so it should be North Calne. I will need to check that it is still unallocated and available but I believe that is the case.

Chuck
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Peter Dolman · Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:10 pm Post subject:

Chuck I don't wish to sound patronising but I don't think you have grasped the question.
There are exsisting private clubs ie Bremhill Social Club and the North Star Club. The Bremhill View Club was built by the football club not the wider community and the North Star Club was originally built by the community as a community hall.

The community hall being the subject of Local Lass's question was proposed by the Beversbrook Community Association (BCA) and land was, at least so we thought, to be provided by Persimmon. At this stage I was on board with the project.
My objection along with many of the residents came when it was proposed to build it on the playing fields by the football ground/North Star Club.

So the question is do you support the building of a new Community Hall on the Northend Playing field. Yes or No (nothing more or less)

nb the section 106 money is £315,000 and this has already been paid to the town council.

Persimmon pulled out after getting agreement for 2 floors of flats above the community centre and still claimed that they could not afford to do what we all thought they were committed to.

Both the North Star & Bremhill View club are private members clubs not community clubs. There were plans for the Bremhill View club to become a community club but with a change of committee came a change of mind (fact not a critisim).
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Chuck · Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 9:04 pm Post subject:

Is it not possible to get buy in for a joint venture with one of the 'private clubs'?

Patronising you are not my answers are pretty clear I understand what is going on and the £325K (thanks for the figure) will need to be spent ideally in North Calne if not well that is the Town Council's perrogative and my/your. Sophy's job to try to get it for North Calne (which generated it).

Chuck
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Peter Dolman · Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 9:10 am Post subject:

The money has to be spent in Calne North and the decision to build an extension at Beversbrook has been taken. I would refer you to Charles Boase and Tony Trotman for explanation as I believe it was a unamious decision.

There is an abundance of halls for hire in North Calne, this cannot be said about other parts of the town.
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Chuck · Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 10:07 am Post subject:

Well then there is not a lot I/we can do at this time then - Peter I guess it's unfair to ask you the question and its only important if I get elected and need to do something about it (by the way the vote on the Board is nothing like that on the street (sadly)) but what sort of consultation was entered into before the decision was made? Did it seem the most popular? Or is it, as it appears, not the most supported decision that has been made?

Thanks for your help though I hope if I get in we can continue to work together (I am not Political with a big P and that part of the job annoys me) we do need some North centric body of residents to act to pressurise both Councils for the benefit of the locals over the rest of the County or the Town.

Kind regards,

Chuck
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Peter Dolman · Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 6:21 pm Post subject:

I am not a town councillor so I again would refer you to your fellow conservative candidates Charles Boase & Tony Trotman who are. They would have had the notes relating to the issue when the vote was taken.

What I do know is that there are many people who do not want another hall built and especially not on their playing field.

The original purchase document means that a Minister of State would have to give pemission for the hall to be built and there would have been many objections.

Part of the decision did include the business plan presented by BCA (I have never seen this document) which some councillors expressed concern about. The proposed hall would not have a bar but they expect to have a least 1 wedding reception a week. I don't know about you but I cannot remember ever going to a booze free wedding reception.

The £315k would have not been enough to build a stand alone hall and the extention to Beversbrook will mean the council borrowing more to build it.

There is also a time frame to adher to, that is if the money is not spent by a certain time then it goes back to Persimmon!

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