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Local lass
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| Geddi wrote: | No-one seems to disagree with me about research being spent on extremely rare diseases. It seems that even Block, with his family's background of medical practice, is more keen to discuss breasts implants!
This figure of 1500 per annum was merely an example. Can we broaden the debate here a little chaps? |
wasnt this thread about breast enlargement???
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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No. It was originally a more generic discussion about the whole impact on the NHS of "wasteful operations". :wink: :lol:
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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For me, I'd like to see more research done on those crippling problems that affect few of us but are devestating when they do - I don't think enough priority is given in this area personally. |
I quite agree Rosco, although some research is done on most conditions, they are predominately budget and performance led, and more often than not the big money goes to things that are more politically correct. The NHS could save millions each year if they simply adopted a "three strikes and you are out" with the junkie population alone, and I for one would like to see the money spent on more worthwhile illnesses with people who appreciate the help.
On another issue with NHS funds, I think it is long overdue that this country tightens up with foreign people that come over here for free treatment, as most countries expect us to pay or have insurance if we go abroad. |
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Some interesting answers coming up here.
Foreigners coming here and getting treatment does seem to be unfair I have to agree.
Junkies getting treatment and the three strikes? Not sure what you mean by 3 strikes Block? I do know that for a lot of people who suddenly realise they are hooked on heroin or whatever can not automatically get substitutes or book into rehab. As far as I am aware the cash does not come from the same budget in any case. I will check this and some figures and get back to you. I'm not certain how much is spent nationwide on, for example - arresting and housing in prisons and all the damage and crime done by junkies looking for their next fix, and the amount spent on rehabilitation. Now sure yet which would be best option purely from a financial angle.
Research funding goes primarily to private research extablishments. These in turn often have an invested interest in pHarmaceuticals to treat what illnesses are treated. Those which are most profitable are the ones most likely to be researched. We've now got a situation where people and animals can be hybridised! What are they heading for? This is a new topic though, so I say no more to that here.
There are dozens of ways in which money is wasted within the NHS, in my opinion. I started the debate with a couple of ideas. Anyone got anything fresh?
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| Quote: | | I do know that for a lot of people who suddenly realise they are hooked on heroin |
How can people suddenly realise?
That like saying i didnt know i was going to get killed if i got hit by a train!
| Quote: | | I'm not certain how much is spent nationwide on, for example - arresting and housing in prisons and all the damage and crime done by junkies looking for their next fix, and the amount spent on rehabilitation. Now sure yet which would be best option purely from a financial angle. |
I think the best option would be to give them all their last "fix".
One they will never forget! (bit hard to forget when your in a box) |
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Kathy: You obviously have no knowledge of heroin or who it works or who it affects or why. Taking that into account, I wont accuse you of being heartless. I know of people here in Calne who found themselves hooked on heroin without realising what they were getting into. Somehow, the education on drugs seems to have missed a generation or so. However, should one of your own ever get hooked on something they can not get away from, which ends up making other people's lives a misery around them and perhaps threatens their lives, maybe, just maybe you'll feel somewhat different.
I was hooked on a deadly, antisocial drug for years, but I am now clean of it, thankfully. I am still affected by others who take it and on rare occasions I crave it, usually when I am in close proximity to other users. It wasn't heroin that I was hooked on, it was tobacco.
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| Geddi wrote: | | I was hooked on a deadly, antisocial drug for years, but I am now clean of it, thankfully. I am still affected by others who take it and on rare occasions I crave it, usually when I am in close proximity to other users. It wasn't heroin that I was hooked on, it was tobacco. |
With this in mind, should the NHS fund anti-smoking patches for these people who smoke? You could argue that if they were daft enough to smoke in the first place why should the NHS have to fork out on something which the smoker can obviously afford?
I read in the paper this morning that there is an increase in boys and very young men having breast reduction surgery because they are growing "man-boobs" due to their obesity. What ever next? 
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| People should be happy with what they have, one day they might realise its whats inside the person that matters not the physical shape, if people weren't so disatified with their bodies then maybe the nhs can use the money more wisely and what they were intended for many years ago, which was to give free health care to the needy |
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Angel: Here here.
I quit smoking using what I have naturally, willpower. It wasn't easy and still isn't, but I am glad about the smoking laws from last July. I can now enter pubs and cafes and all without worrying about smoke!
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Good point, Angel. Why should the NHS have to stump up the money for other peoples vanity! :?
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