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would you mind
nope more the merrier
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite agree pimp driver.

Calnetalk strongly oppose the site.
We are starting a petition.
We as a town need to work together and stop this from happening.
I will draw up the petition today.
If any one would like to help me please pm me.
We need to show the council that we do not want this.
Once we start the petion and the wheels are in motion,We will sort out a meeting..
From what i belive we have just under 6 weeks.In that time we need to get as many signitures as possible.

This is the time when the people of calne need to unite before it is to late.


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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just up-date my blog with what I know on this. I am unable to attend the meeting tomorrow due to a prior commitment so I hope plenty of you will be there to register your views and also pass details of what happens on to the wider world.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was at the meeting last night. Unfortunately at times it got quite heated with many people directing their anger at the Town Council, when what they are actually trying to do is represent the people of Calne and put forward the best rebuttal they can to the proposals from NWDC.

Let's not forget that the situation with the gypsies has arisen as a result of a directive from central government.

We stand the best chance of preventing the site being in Calne by working together to come up with some sensible planning reasons why it is not a suitable place for this site.

The town council have set up a working group which will look into the impact on Calne's infrastructure -- schools and healthcare, businesses, property prices, policing, etc.

I am confident that they will put in the hard work that is needed to produce a report for NWDC demonstrating why a gyspy site would be detrimental to the town, particularly in light of the current regeneration, which is being funded by NWDC money.

It is also important that members of the public write to NWDC to give their views which should be based on planning considerations and the impact on the town rather than on prejudicial views about the travellers community. These can be emailed to lrobertson@northwilts.gov.uk with a copy to the Calne town clerk lroberts@calne.gov.uk.

Full details can be found on the north wilts website at www.northwilts.gov.uk/gypsyconsultation
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It is also important that members of the public write to NWDC to give their views which should be based on planning considerations and the impact on the town rather than on prejudicial views about the travellers community. These can be emailed to lrobertson@northwilts.gov.uk with a copy to the Calne town clerk lroberts@calne.gov.uk.

Full details can be found on the north wilts website at www.northwilts.gov.uk/gypsyconsultation


I would also like to add a example of valid reasons...

:If your house has fallen though because of the proposed taverler site.

:They like a site within 1 mile of a secondary school,Both sites proposed in Calne are neither.

:Services,ie schools and doctors over prescribed

:The access to the sites.

You can also write any additional material to

Spartial plans team,
North wiltshire District Council,
Monkton park,
Chippenham,
Sn15 1ER
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I attended last nights gipsy site meeting and listened intently to the comments and responses that were made.  Councillor Hill told us that he and the people sat with him were seeking the views of Calne and they would use these views to write a report to the District Council.  He also said that he and the rest of the Councillors always bent over backwards to represent Calne’s electorate; however, his/their track record clearly demonstrates that this statement is just not true.

Last week, the British Legion presented the Council with an ongoing petition that had canvassed 5.5% of Calne.  Almost 100% of those people had signed the petition asking the Council to fly the Union Flag daily from the Town Hall flag pole to show support for our troops abroad.  Following the presentation, Councillor Hill voted against the wishes of his electorate because he personally didn’t think much of the Union Flag.  Councillor Venton (sat far right last night) also voted against the electorate’s wishes proclaiming that the people of Calne may not have understood what they were signing and some would sign anything to get people of their doorstep! (This appeared to be a common view displayed by a number of Councillors so don’t rely on the petition).  Councillor Viner told last weeks meeting that he should vote to do as the electorate wished him to and then voted against their wishes.  Councillor Ramsey, the only person sat at the table last night who had prepared and researched and the only one therefore able to give reasoned and full responses to questions from the floor, was also the only Councillor sat at the table last night to have voted in accord with the wishes of Calne’s electorate the previous week.  Unfortunately, last week she was out voted.

A member of the public was in possession of a printed copy of an email from Councillor Viner which stated that the Council would fight the proposed sites.  Viner said that he hadn’t authorised the email and the man responded well, its got your name on the bottom!  This email had been sent before consultations with Calne had begun and therefore could not have represented Calne’s views.  However, the position was in line with the public in the room.

Unfortunately, again looking at the Council’s track record, they had voted by a majority in accord with the electorate over the flag issue last month and then some had changed their minds and voted against the electorates wishes last week (Viner was one of those who voted in favour last month and then against last week).  The Council’s current position was not based on Calne’s views and the fact that at the moment it aligns with ours does not mean it will remain that way.

Another gentleman asked the councillors why they had let problems become a crisis that the public need to become involved with yet again and cited the leisure centre as another example (yet another was the grave yard issue).

We must make every effort to make sure that these Councillors absolutely have to represent our views and are unable take another position in the future should they change their views.  However, what we really need is for these Councillors to start serving the people of Calne as they promised they would when they canvassed us for our votes at the last election.  If they do not change and continue as their track record demonstrates then it is impossible to tell whether they will in fact represent us over this issue or indeed any other that they again neglectfully allow our town to fall into in the future.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harris with alll due respect.It was  also said at the meeting last night that "it is not important how we got here,The fact of the matter is that we are here".
He is right.
Despite what anyone thinks of the council  we have to work together with them to help stop these sites from going ahead.
We could spend the next 5 weeks arguing with them on how they have served calne,at the end of the day it will get us no where.

Where as if we work together ,in five weeks we the public  and the council can present the best report on why we should not have the sites in calne.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morning Top Dog!  I completely agree that right now we need to be moving forward from where we find ourselves. The main point I am making above is not over examining how we got here with the gipsy site issue but over how we make sure the Councillor’s have no way of representing any other view than that of the majority of Calne.  Their continuing track record up to and including the rather embarrassing email from Viner is irrefutable evidence that contrary to the comments made by Hill most of our Councillors (including Hill and Viner) do not take the views of their electorate into account when making decisions for Calne, they do what they want.  My comment
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We must make every effort to make sure that these Councillors absolutely have to represent our views and are unable take another position in the future should they change their views.
 can only be achieved by understanding the track record of these people and using an approach that will prevent them from misrepresenting us over this issue as they have over other issues in the past.

Once we have dealt with this issue (in the 5 weeks that we have left) then we should find out how we got here.  Contrary to Councillor Hill’s view this is extremely important because only by understanding how we got here can we ensure that it doesn’t happen again.  But we do have some urgent matters to deal with first.

If I trusted these Councillors then I would be comfortable with the idea of working together; however, the main issue I see is that their past performance seems to indicate a lack of integrity, which is why we need to make absolutely sure they cannot approach this issue in the same way and they have to represent their electorate.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harris wrote:
Morning Top Dog!  I completely agree that right now we need to be moving forward from where we find ourselves. The main point I am making above is not over examining how we got here with the gipsy site issue but over how we make sure the Councillor’s have no way of representing any other view than that of the majority of Calne.].



At the end of the day,unfortunately it is not the town council that decide.The feeling i had at the meeting is they do not want this either.


 

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Once we have dealt with this issue (in the 5 weeks that we have left) then we should find out how we got here.  Contrary to Councillor Hill’s view this is extremely important because only by understanding how we got here can we ensure that it doesn’t happen again.  But we do have some urgent matters to deal with first.].


I would agree with your comment regarding his.

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If I trusted these Councillors then I would be comfortable with the idea of working together; however, the main issue I see is that their past performance seems to indicate a lack of integrity, which is why we need to make absolutely sure they cannot approach this issue in the same way and they have to represent their electorate.


I feel on this matter we have no choice but to trust that they will try and do there best for the people of Calne.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need my driveway done...let them come!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel the councillors of calne do an outstanding job and if it were not for them, we'd still be living in the drab lifeless town that it was, a decade ago.

The town looks great, we have a fantastic sports centre, a new sports complex being built, a youth centre thriving and a new town centre in progess. Plus the tidy streets and beautifull flower show at the moment  ..........

"Abitmuch" from september onwards planning permission will be required to put any driveway on your property (except gravel) i'd get it done sooner rather than later, to avoid the extra costs.
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