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GTB Bentlian Oldboy

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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:51 pm Post subject: Vegetarianism |
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This is taken from the Getting to know you section.
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I love my meat, there is no way i could be a veggie, if i had to kill it myself i could. Im sorry but im going to sound like a heatless cow now! If i can buy a chicken for £5 that will feed all six of us, i will and do, they all get killed the same way, ive seen the stuff on telly but im sorry im not put off. Animals are here for humans to eat why else have we got k9 teeth. You all know how i feel about my animals but if it was a choice between me or my family and any of them, there is no contest. |
My question is: do people become vegetarian out of guilt? I can think of no other reason at present why people would want to omit meat from their diet. :?
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Clunk Ejected
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Due to various reasons, the only meat I will eat is chicken. But I possibly only eat meat once a week. |
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Local lass Calnetalk Oracle

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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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a friend of mine who grew up on a farm turned to a veggie at the age of 13 she is still one now.
not really sure why.
if ever i was to become a veggie i would come one out of guilt :lol: |
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Bear Bentlian Oldboy

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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Most vegetarians I know dont look at all healthy |
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kathy27 Born and Bred Local

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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe im being abit dumb (dont say anything!) but whats to feel guilty about? If no one eat meat, the farmers would go bankrupt, the animals would have to be killed anyhow cause no one could afford to feed them. |
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GTB Bentlian Oldboy

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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure you would feel guilt if you analyse what sort of life an animal has to go through just to feed you and sustain your life. If you have no feelings at all over where your food comes from, ie. ethical humane treatment of animals during their lifetime, then that is a very arrogant attitude. _________________
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kathy27 Born and Bred Local

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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe i do have an arrogant attitude then, my family have had beef herds for years, they care for the cows give them food and have the vets check them if they are ill, but at the end of the day they are food for us. And off they go to market.
Im not saying i think these animals should be mis-treated in there life time, but i think we can get too sentimental about it. |
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GTB Bentlian Oldboy

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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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A farmer friend of mine said that it still "cuts him up" to send his animals to the slaughter because (like your family, Kathy) he raises a beef herd where an animal can be with you for quite some time before reaching a good killing weight. Another chap know admitted that he sobbed all the way to Stiles abbatoir with his first ever load of beef cows because he had got attached to them, saying that each of them had a different personality and behavioural traits.
I agree that humans evolved to be omnivorous but as a so-called sentient race shouldn't we also have a responsibility to care for the animals in our trust or what we decide to buy? _________________
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Kizzy Born and Bred Local

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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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I only eat meat probably about once a week if that, and only chicken, minced beef or tuna.
I have cut meat out of my diet for to help me lose weight, as I was technically morbidly obese (I have already lost 3 stone). I eat meat free produce which tastes great and for someone who hardly eats meat - I don't think I look i'll
My aunty has been vegetarian for about 30 years and she doesn't look ill - she eats sensibly (lots of fruit and veg) and she eats meat free produce. Not sure why she chose to be a vegetarian _________________ aut viam inveniam aut faciam! |
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Geddi Born and Bred Local

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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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A lie has been told and retold again and again and it is this:
Food is a deeply political, spiritual, sensual, fun, health giving or health diminishing and an essential part of our lives. Whoopee.
If we all ate no meat or animal products at all in the UK, we could feed about 150 million people from home grown food.
If we all ate vastly varied and healthy vegan diets, we could all expect to live about 9 years longer, experience fewer heart attacks, lower cholesterol levels, less sexual dysfunction (men), lower incidence of bowel cancer and be a lot calmer with lower blood pressure. Fewer incidences of excema and asthma and higher sensitivity to others could also result.
A great book about this (on the side of meat eating in UK) is Our Food Our Land. It's also a great book about Britain within Europe and all that side of things.
Here's a point here. Animals eat food we could eat, except for poultry and browsing milch animals like goats. Not very efficient.
Another one: In Southern Africa, feeding rich foods to young women and girls was taboo for a long time, including eggs and certain types of meat and fish. Now, this traditional taboo is changing and behaviour in young women and girls is changing with a massive rise in teenage pregnancies.
I find it amusing, to a point, what different cultures consider ok to eat or not, especially animals. In UK we tend to frown at eating rats, horses, dogs and others. Elsewhere it is not considered good to eat pork, in others beef.
If I were hungry enough and my kids were starving I would eat and feed them whatever was available... This is a fair warning in the light that world food prices are rising fast! You have all been warned  _________________ Democracy is dead. |
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