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Local lass
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would you say calne has a anti socal problem?read in the paper today that last friday police had to breck up a group of 50-60 tennagers from the town centre.
do you have any anti social problems where you live in town?
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Peter Dolman
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anti social behaviourI understand that most if not all had been at a party in Abberd and they decided it would be good to get a kabab, nothing wrong in that.
A large number are thought to have come from outside Calne.
There was in fact not any trouble but the perception was that there was going to be, rightly or wrongly.
No I don't think that Calne has an anti social behaviourable problem, at least no more than any other market town.
There are though a very small minority who enjoy their "celebrity"
status.
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kathy27
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Re: anti social behaviour[quote="Peter Dolman"]
No I don't think that Calne has an anti social behaviourable problem, at least no more than any other market town.
I would say yes calne does has a problem, all be a small one.
Im not really concerned with other market towns, just making calne a better, safer place.
Last night going to bed around midnight, we looked out of the bedroom window because we heard a noise, there were no less than 30 teenagers walking towards the park with boxes of beer already being rowdy.
Each week in the paper there are stories of cars being damaged, windows being smashed, sheds being broken into. im sure the people who has had this happen will say they think theres a problem.
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Chepfer
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Calne has no worse problem than any other local town in terms of anti social behavior.
The problem is not the kids ....... it is the lack of things for them to do here...
The council wanted to rid us of our Youth centre ..... Well done Calne town council for keeping it going
The council wanted to get rid us of our sports center....... Well done, Peter & Kevin etc for making such a wonderfull effort in respect of that.
The council have fenced off the school fields, where the children of calne always used to play after school.
The council have closed nealy all of the local community parks..... ie Luckett way, swadden street, north end...... etc.
The council do not care for the youth of today, they are a large cause of the problem..... they have taken away the places for youth to express themselves in a respectable manner. And then they have the audacity to turn around and wander why there are kids in the street causing problems....... Makes me sick !!!!!!!!.
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rosco
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| Chepfer wrote: |
The council do not care for the youth of today, they are a large cause of the problem..... they have taken away the places for youth to express themselves in a respectable manner. And then they have the audacity to turn around and wander why there are kids in the street causing problems....... Makes me sick !!!!!!!!. |
Sorry, with respect I don't think that is correct to blame the council - I cannot see that saying there is no parks is an excuse for drinking in the street, anti-social behaviour or other problems that happen. Councils are not the social 'nannies' of youth, at least in my understanding.
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kathy27
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| Quote: | | Calne has no worse problem than any other local town in terms of anti social behavior. |
As i said my concern is not any other town, let try and get calne back on its feet before we take on the world.
| Quote: | | The problem is not the kids ....... it is the lack of things for them to do here... |
Ive always lived in calne, and there has never been much for kids to do here.
| Quote: | | The council wanted to rid us of our Youth centre ..... Well done Calne town council for keeping it going |
The age limit for the kids using the youth centre is not covering the age of the kids that are hanging around the town.
| Quote: | | The council wanted to get rid us of our sports center....... Well done, Peter & Kevin etc for making such a wonderfull effort in respect of that. |
Well done to everyone who helped re-open the centre, i just hope it gets used this time around.
| Quote: | | The council have fenced off the school fields, where the children of calne always used to play after school. |
Why? Due to older kids vandalizing the place.
| Quote: | | The council have closed nealy all of the local community parks..... ie Luckett way, swadden street, north end...... etc. |
The park in anchor road is still open, what do the kids do? Go and drink there. The police are there every week.
| Quote: | | The council do not care for the youth of today, they are a large cause of the problem..... they have taken away the places for youth to express themselves in a respectable manner. And then they have the audacity to turn around and wander why there are kids in the street causing problems....... Makes me sick !!!!!!!!. |
Calne council is as much to balme as anyone, we offered to fix up the "bowl", after talking to the kids in calne it was something they did want and they wanted to help, so we offered labour free, the council turned us down flat, they would rather pay a stupid amount of money, and its still not done!!
But the main people to balme are the parents, where do they think there little darlings are at night and what do they think they are doing??
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Peter Dolman
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It is so easy to blame every one except ourselves, if "you/I" are unhappy with the system then do what we did get off your backside and do something about it. The result is the new leisure centre where kids of all ages are welcomed (what it is not is a baby sitting service).
I assure everyone that all the 3 tiers of councils will fall over backwards to help with any community incentive to entertain teenagers.
Members of the community have to plan, promote and instigate but there are funds out there to obtained.
Be positive and don't wait for someone else.
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Chepfer
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Which is why i was at the centre helping out myself !
I firmly believe that giving the kids opportunity,respect and places where they can express themselves through sport or play gives them a sense of purpose and responsibility.
Where as taking away the places and parks where they can express themselves in a positive manner, just seems such a negative thing to do.
Yes i completely agree, it is the parents and certain areas of society that are to blame. It seems crazy to me how these parents do not give a damn about there kids and what they are doing. They seem to have given up on life as whole and the kids suffer for there own lack of self, it's so sad to see.
I'd like to know...... What did you all do between the ages of say 12 and 21 and whats so different from today ?
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Local lass
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calne has a big problem with kids underage drinking and drunken behaviour at weekends.
where does the underage kids get it from?
why is it that the law states that no pub /club should serve achol to someone who appears drunk .yet the state you see some people in.
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rosco
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| Local lass wrote: | calne has a big problem with kids underage drinking and drunken behaviour at weekends.
where does the underage kids get it from?
why is it that the law states that no pub /club should serve achol to someone who appears drunk .yet the state you see some people in.  |
Must admit I've never understood either, I can only think that shops don't check properly or that they have fake Id, or over 18s buy it and give it to them.
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Bear
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Anti social behaviour.
As some of you may have gathered from my posts on other sections in this forum I am not a spring chicken and can therefore remember back many years. In the 50s we had teddy boys, the 60s mods & rockers followed in the late 60s early 70s by skinheads greasers and in the late 70s punks followed by various groups of youths some tagged with names by the press and some not up to the current batch of youngster who are called various names hoodies being the most popular. They all had one thing in common, they wanted to rebel against society therefore becoming anti social. In my opinion the only thing that is different is the level of behaviour. When we say there is nothing for the kids to do we forget that when we were you the only thing we wanted to do was hang around with our mates possibly on street corners or in parks drinking beer or what ever not doing organised stuff like a Youth Club or a Leisure Centre because we needed to rebel. It is also true that many activities which are put on for kids were ruined by them I can remember the seats in Calne cinema being slashed and punch ups at discos in the town hall and up the woodlands 40 plus years ago. So when you see those kids on the street tonight try and remeber what it was like being a teenager when everyone was teling you how to behave and try and remember how you felt.
But most of all remember that youth is most definetly wasted on the young.
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kathy27
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| Peter Dolman wrote: | It is so easy to blame every one except ourselves, if "you/I" are unhappy with the system then do what we did get off your backside and do something about it. The result is the new leisure centre where kids of all ages are welcomed (what it is not is a baby sitting service).
I assure everyone that all the 3 tiers of councils will fall over backwards to help with any community incentive to entertain teenagers.
Members of the community have to plan, promote and instigate but there are funds out there to obtained.
Be positive and don't wait for someone else. |
Sorry Peter, but i totally disagree with you one this one.
Hubby and i spent many evening walking around the town talking to the kids asking what they wanted from calne, most wanted the bowl fixed up so they could use it, we then had a meeting with the council, police and other formal bods, everyone agreed something should be done, as ive said we offered our business labour free to help the kids with the work. the council said NO, they are paying a stupid amount of money and TWO years later its still not done
We even offered to run a cafe sort of thing down there, again NO
so sorry peter, whilst there may well be some on the council that would be willing to listen and help jo public get something better done for calne, they are few and far between.
Whilst at another meeting about the bowl, where we weny to see the work that had already been done ( a new fence, that cost thousands !!) even the police laughed at the amount the council had paid!
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Local lass
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i think kathy has a good point there.
bear i hear what your saying but its still no excuse for anti social behaviour.
kids these days havnt got the imagination what they did have .when i was growing up we didnt need computer games or tellys we would be building dens,playing polo,40 40 in games what only aquires people .
the kids do need more to do something that they can also work at and be involved in.
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Local lass
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intresting article .
http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk...lines/display.var.2069594.0.0.php
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Kizzy
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The only difference I can see between teenagers now and going back 15 years when I was 14, is that teenagers have a lot more attitude and rights.
I used to go drinking, I used to hang around town, I used to hang around play parks, but I was not abusive to any body else - especially adults, I did not have the desire to vandalise peoples property, I did not see the need for violence, I may have been loud on occasions, as most children are - I respected everyone and everything around me, I never disobeyed my parents, I never backchatted them. I was too scared to, scared of the Police, scared of getting a criminal record or being locked up, and most of all scared of my parents reaction if I did anything like that.
So the teenagers nowadays are just doing what I did 15 years ago(hanging around town, drinking etc) but they do it with attitude because they know in the end all they'll get is a teling off or a special bit of paper with ASBO on it. There is no real threat of punishment. There is nothing to scare them into behaving.
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kathy27
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[quote] I was too scared to, scared of the Police, scared of getting a criminal record or being locked up, and most of all scared of my parents reaction if I did anything like that.[/quote
couldn't agree more, kizzy. The problem is now-a-days the yobs parents dont care where they are or what they are doing! (by yobs i mean the ones that are out to cause trouble and damage to whatever or who ever they want) They get away with it because they other kids are to scared to name them, and even if you know who they are......what can you do about it.
I'd love to meet the lad that beat up my son........ one dark night in a nice alley, when he gets out of nick again!!!
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Local lass
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see the police raided a flat .which contained canobis plants .
but no arrests were made :?
http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk...nnabis_factory_found_in_calne.php
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kathy27
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yeah i saw that, i dont understand how no arrests were made, did the plants put themselves in the flat and water themselves??
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rosco
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| kathy27 wrote: | | yeah i saw that, i dont understand how no arrests were made, did the plants put themselves in the flat and water themselves?? |
Maybe there was no-one there at the time?
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