Local lass
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WHO DO YOU WANT TO WINwho do you want to win the lickhill by-election.
Ellie Bland-ukip
Robert Baggs-bnp
Geoff Brown-green party
Greg widger-cons
Glen Ansel-lib dem
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Top Dog
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Glen Ansel-lib dem won. 
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Local lass
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i would sooner robert won
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Peter Dolman
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resultGlenis Ansell won by 22 votes with Greg Widger (Conservative) in 2nd place.
Ellie Bland 3rd
Robert Baggs 4th (11% of the vote)
Brown 5th
The turnout was surprisingly high given the weather at 27%, 788 voters turned out. They ought to be thanked shame more could not be bothered!
I am personally pleased that the voters of Lickhill have returned a Lib Dem to the council.
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Bear
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Interesting that the Green Party were last do you think that the Green movement is now dead in the water.
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GTB
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The Green party, like the Monster raving loony party, are mainly protest votes when people don't agree with the mainstream parties.
A 27% turnout is pretty poor though isn't it.  Is this a normal turnout for local elections with widespread apathy?
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Peter Dolman
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resultI agree the turnout at 27% is poor but I am afraid that it is pretty normal. In fact there has been bye elections in Calne where the turnout has been lower.
I feel that there is a case for compulsary voting as there is in Australia.
There is an argument that promotes the idea that electors only turnout when they are dissatisfied with the way their council/goverment are doing a bad job. So it could be said that the majority of residents of Lickhill Ward are generally happy with the council.
I am more concerned that 11% of the electorate felt happy to vote for the BNP. Robert Baggs is a decent local candidate but the party he stands for is not acceptable, perhaps he should stand as an independant. He might stand a better chance to be elected although he is tainted by his relationship with the BNP.
Why people can't be bothered to vote in town elections is a mystery so they should not complain about decsions made on their behalf!
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Local lass
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to be honest peter i think the way the country is going the bnp would do a good job.
i could never turn around and say that i agree with a party 100 per cent .many aspects of the bnp i do agree in .i dont agree in the hunting law though 
depends what people want for me it would be
close the gates on the uk.stop refugees,alyslum seekers coming in,
if any foriener wishes to stay in this country he should do it off his own back they should not be allowed are nhs or benifits and housing.
get forieners to accept are religion and respect are culture,at presant it seems we are bending over backwards for other cultures. and religions.
ban burkas in the uk .
if they come here to live then they must learn english.
that would be my top ones .
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Peter Dolman
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resultsLocal Lass what you are advocating denigns 1,000 years of English (oophs British) history. We have since the Norman invasion accepted the oppressed and homeless from around the globe and they in general has enriched our society and we (you and I) have benefited from it.
I would even argue that we as a former colonial empire have responsibilities towards our former "workers".
We as a nation accepted soldiers from around the world without whom we would never have come out on top. If that had been the case you and I could not be banding around ideas as we are!
This is not to say that I believe there should be no controls on immigration because patently there has to be. Whatever is in place has to be seen to be open and fair.
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iamelliot
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| Local lass wrote: |
if they come here to live then they must learn english.
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I'm not singling out anyone particular, but I think many British citizens could do with brushing up on their spelling and grammar...
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Local lass
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i have alway been crap at written english. 
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Local lass
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Re: results | Peter Dolman wrote: |
This is not to say that I believe there should be no controls on immigration because patently there has to be. Whatever is in place has to be seen to be open and fair. |
who is it fair for though?cos its not us.
are nhs is in dire straights with staff shortages and lack of money ,
we have a housing shortage yet refugees can come in to the country and get a house and benifits .
most schools are being over fillied with avarage class room sizes of 30.
what is are goverment doing allowing this?
the english people work hard ,pay taxes and for what?
and why are they now going to cripple us futher by hosting a olymplcs 
sorry rant over
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GTB
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Re: results | Peter Dolman wrote: | | We as a nation accepted soldiers from around the world without whom we would never have come out on top. If that had been the case you and I could not be banding around ideas as we are!. |
The biggest travesty with regards to your above comment is how the British Government has treated the Gurka regiments in their pay and pension details. One of the most toughest armies in the world which has given sterling service to this country and for what? A laughable remuneration package which leaves them just above the poverty line.
| Peter Dolman wrote: |
This is not to say that I believe there should be no controls on immigration because patently there has to be. Whatever is in place has to be seen to be open and fair. |
The immigration issue has been a bugbear of nations since time began. This country was built on immigration and integration which gave us a rich mix of different cultures which has rubbed off on us over the years. You only have to look at our language to see all the words of French, German and Indian origin.
Anyhow.............. getting back to the subject of the Lickhill by-election
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Bear
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Re: result | Peter Dolman wrote: | I agree the turnout at 27% is poor but I am afraid that it is pretty normal. In fact there has been bye elections in Calne where the turnout has been lower.
I feel that there is a case for compulsary voting as there is in Australia. |
Compulsary voting, in my humble opinion, could have a negative affect on the so called bigger parties as I believe most people dont vote because they have no faith in any of those who are standing or believe that their vote will have no effect. Thus being forced to vote they are more likely to vote for one of the more radical parties as a protest. This is probably the reason why the ruling parties will never bring it in.
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Bear
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There is an argument that promotes the idea that electors only turnout when they are dissatisfied with the way their council/goverment are doing a bad job. So it could be said that the majority of residents of Lickhill Ward are generally happy with the council.
I think it is more likely that they believe that it will make no difference to the standard of their lives whoever they vote for
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Bear
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Re: result | Peter Dolman wrote: | | I'm more concerned that 11% of the electorate felt happy to vote for the BNP. Robert Baggs is a decent local candidate but the party he stands for is not acceptable, perhaps he should stand as an independant. He might stand a better chance to be elected although he is tainted by his relationship with the BNP.! |
In reality 11% of the 27% of electors who bothered to vote voted for the BNP which works out to be less than 3% of those entitled to vote and I for one find that dissappointing as the other candidates were standing for parties tainted by sleaze and corruption at the highest level. The Lib Dems for example who party leader was a drunkard, the Tories whose antics over the years have not exactly enabled them to take the moral high ground. Now whilst I am sure the candidates are all decent local candidates it will always be the way the party is perceived nationally which will dictate the way in which the majority vote
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Peter Dolman
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Lickhill bye election 31st JanuaryIt is interesting to see how this arguement has moved on from the original question.
Bear I don't disagree with you, but what ever synopsis is correct I suspect we both would like to see more people get of there backsides and vote. When I hear individuals complaining about our politicians (local or national) I ask if they vote and more often than not the answer is no.
If you don't vote then you forfeit the right to complain. Its no good ranting against town councillors when only 35 out of 100 eligible vote turn out at elections!
The people get the politicians they deserve, they are, afterall, only a reflection of society at general.
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pimpdriver
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I didn't vote because I forgot. I remembered at about 9pm, by which time it was raining and I was tired.
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Local lass
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bet the people havnt even heard of the winner since winning.
thats the one think that bugs me .
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Peter Dolman
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come to the council meeting in the town hall on monday (31st March) then you can see her and all the other councillors.
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Geddi
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Elliot: say no more
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