Local lass
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suspended for a monthhttp://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk...or_suspended_over_bullying_claim/
if this is true and thats all he did say then surley linda should have tougher skin to be in politics.
quoted from the gazette
“I told her she would have a virtual war on her hands over this matter and she thought this was a threatening comment. It really was not meant in that way.
from what i have heard from a couple of other councillors is that mr ireland isnt popular amonst them.however .im glad he wont say sorry ,t least its a councilour who is sticking up for what he belives in with out being pushed about.
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rosco
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Re: suspended for a month | Local lass wrote: | http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk...or_suspended_over_bullying_claim/
if this is true and thats all he did say then surley linda should have tougher skin to be in politics.
quoted from the gazette
“I told her she would have a virtual war on her hands over this matter and she thought this was a threatening comment. It really was not meant in that way.
from what i have heard from a couple of other councillors is that mr ireland isnt popular amonst them.however .im glad he wont say sorry ,t least its a councilour who is sticking up for what he belives in with out being pushed about. |
Linda's not actually in politics, as she's a Council employee (and thus not elected).
Councillor Ireland does indeed have views which he's not willing to compromise on, but it's hard to form a true opinion based on an article that has only his side of the story in it.
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Geddi
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IF Linda had more fibre, she may well have dealt with the matter in a more direct way instead of making complaints. I am no particular fan of Mr Ireland, but I am a fan of the concept - "It's tough at the top" and Linda is getting paid quite handsomely to perform her job. If it gets tough, and she can not discern between tough language and threats, then perhaps she is not the best candidate for the job? I wonder if those who selected her could justify their choice if quizzed publically about it? She is, after all, being paid for out of the public purse!
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Attrebates
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Rosco has it right. The town clerk is an employee of the the town council and as she is not elected, she does as she is told. To do otherwise would be the tail wagging the dog and that would be totally unacceptable.
In this she has exercised her right to protest at her view of the treatment she has received. But I suspect there is more to this than is in the papers. (There normally is.)
IF a one month suspension in the quietest time of the council year is a fair sanction then the "crime" would not appear too bad and maybe time AND money could have been better spent.
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Local lass
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| Geddi wrote: | | IF Linda had more fibre, she may well have dealt with the matter in a more direct way instead of making complaints. I am no particular fan of Mr Ireland, but I am a fan of the concept - "It's tough at the top" and Linda is getting paid quite handsomely to perform her job. If it gets tough, and she can not discern between tough language and threats, then perhaps she is not the best candidate for the job? I wonder if those who selected her could justify their choice if quizzed publically about it? She is, after all, being paid for out of the public purse! |
i would agree with geddi on this one .
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Peter Dolman
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The Town Clerk (Mrs Roberts) is as stated an employee of the council and she was employed by the whole of the council, albeit by way of a sub committee. The way councillors interact with employees is laid down in a set of "rules". They have been established to protect both councillors and council employees
I can only assume that Mrs Roberts felt that those rules had been broken and a compliant was made. It would seem that the independant adjudicator found in her favour.
The 1 month suspension is, if I remember rightly, one of the smallest penalty available so the infringement must have been considered minimal.
I know that this affair must seem trivial but both parties must have some process for protection against unfair comments. Even a off the cuff comment sometimes have unforseen consequences!
The majority of these cases do not appear in the press and I wonder who decided to make the affair public?
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Local lass
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its a shame he has quit .other than that
well done for speaking out.the one thing that you could say for mr ireland was the fact that he stuck up with what he belived in.and wasnt the sheep like most of them.
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Attrebates
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| Local lass wrote: | its a shame he has quit .other than that
well done for speaking out.the one thing that you could say for mr ireland was the fact that he stuck up with what he belived in.and wasnt the sheep like most of them. |
Just curious. Is the applause for standing up for what he believed or the fact he has quit ?
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AndyI
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http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk...llors_quit_over_council_tax_rise/
He explains why he has resigned and has even posted a comment.
Peter,
The town clerk made no attempt to reconcile things, in fact when she complained of harrassing and nasty emails, Cllr Ireland asked her for a list of people she believed were members of RBL and he said he would deal with them for her. None of them were RBL members.
At that point he didnt even realise there was anything more than just strong political arguments taking place. For the most part he was not involved with the RBL campaign because he had declared an interest being a Cllr.
IMO it is six of one and half a dozen of the other and she should have called him to one side and let her feelings be known. Instead she went to extraordinary lengths to 'do his legs' for want of a better phrase and that was motivated by a third party. It's just a complete and utter waste of money when the two of them just needed thier heads banging together. If people knew what was going on and said nothing then you can see the motivations behind it all. Clearly nobody felt the need to tell him or try to sort things out.
Local Lass, I think we can go as far to say that Cllr Ireland is actually more than just unpopular with some councillors. Many would rather see the back of him. But then I dont think Politics should be a popularity contest, isn't that why nothing gets done in the first place? Sheep and electoral deceipt spring to mind.
He's better off out of it and I've been telling him that for a while. Will save me money too!
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Local lass
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| Attrebates wrote: | | Local lass wrote: | its a shame he has quit .other than that
well done for speaking out.the one thing that you could say for mr ireland was the fact that he stuck up with what he belived in.and wasnt the sheep like most of them. |
Just curious. Is the applause for standing up for what he believed or the fact he has quit ? |
the appluase is for andys post and mr ireland for standing up for what he belives in.Not for the fact he quit.
if anything we need more on the council like that who arnt afraid to speak there mind who do not back track when the oing gets tough.
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Local lass
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andy wrote
Local Lass, I think we can go as far to say that Cllr Ireland is actually more than just unpopular with some councillors. Many would rather see the back of him. But then I dont think Politics should be a popularity contest, isn't that why nothing gets done in the first place? Sheep and electoral deceipt spring to mind.
im well aware of that .rumour has it that because he was the one who proposed the flag it was turned down .mainly because he had upset someone else the week before .
which is why i have said before i would sooner have a councillor who is right .
also with the gypsie situation he was one of the few who had the balls to get up and talk.
how do i know this?
because i reguly talk to another councillour who told me about the flag and the person in question even turned it down despite feeling that it was the right thing to do but felt that he/she would be shot down if agreed.
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