so who won

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who won?

Biggles

who won?

dont he own the chinese restaurant

Chepfer

The results are just coming through now !!!!

I know Tony Trotman has won his ward with Hennings second

alana

They haven't long been counting the votes but there was a dead heat between Charles Boase and Howard Marshall in the Calne central ward.
Eventually they drew it out of a hat and howard Marshall won.
This info has been passed on to me so don't shout if I'm wrong!

Chepfer

Cristeen crisp (cons- lives in kington st michael) has won calne rural beating nancy briant ( ind - lives in mile elm)

Biggles

is there a site with the results, i been trying wiltshire council site and no luck

Chepfer

For the division of Calne North
Details for 2009 election
Results finalised at 15:30 - Candidates for Calne North Candidate Party Votes
BERRY Chuck (Elected) Conservative Party 420 (41.7%)
DOLMAN Peter Liberal Democrats 412 (40.9%)
FEARNLEY-WHITTINGSTALL Sophy Green Party 164 (16.3%)

How close was that ......... well donr chuck

NotTheMetOffice

Local lass

well done chuck

Local lass

NotTheMetOffice

Who won Calne South?

Peter Dolman

Just returned from vote the Calne results were as follows

North
As reported Chuck with 420, me with 412 and Sophy with 164
Majority of 8
turnout 40.2%
Congratulations to Chuck

Chilvester and Abberd
Win for Tony Trotman over Ross Henning
Majority of 108

Central
Charles Boase 654
Howard Marshall 654
on the drawing of lots Howard marshal won by 1 vote

Quemerford and Cherhill
Alan Hill won by approx 100 votes over Glenis Ansell

Calne Rural
Christine Crisp beat Nancy Bryant by approx 100 votes.

I would like to thank all those who voted for me and helped deliver leaflets. I am disappointed but my wife would like to thank personally those 8 voters.

I hope that all elected will fight to promote the town and strive to improve the facilities that we have. For to long Calne has come off second best to the likes of Chippenham!

Peter Dolman

I understand that Christine Crisp has moved to Startley which is over by Malmesbury. So that means 2 of our wards are represented by people living 15 to 20 miles away.
Nancy Bryant does lives at Mile Elm but that is in the Calne Rural ward.

Local lass

peter juding by the results you ran a good race .well done.

something i would like to ask both peter and sofpy.

will you help chuck anyway you can to help improve the town?

Chuck

In fairness a big hug goes out to Peter and Sophy it was very close and I am honoured to be the one who will carry the fotunes of our area into the anals of County Hall.

If I can get the rest to post here I will - the poll conducted on the Board was the ultimate predictor I won it by 8 votes!

Peter Peter Peter I thank you for your thoughts and hard work I do hope you will continue to put me right on things here!

Sophy also big up to you a really strong showing I think for the Green vote we will see how that works in the Euros I am sure your party are looking at the overall result.

thanks again to everyone for their kind thoughts and votes etc....

Kind regards,

Chuck

Peter Dolman

I will be taken some time of to evaluate if and when I will continue with local issues. Having spent many years being involved it almost takes over your life, it is very time consuming.

I will be asking myself do I want to give that amount of time, do I want to be criticised for trying to make a difference and is it all worth while?

I have been disappointed and hurt by some of the negative comments made but expect that from people who do nothing positive for others.

I am sure that is a reaction with most people who lose out at elections be it to 1 vote like Charles Boase or hundreds like some have.

I think my greatest success has been the leisure centre which as many people will acknowledge would in all likelyhood still be closed without my intervention. I am proud of what has been achieved there, which I am more than willing to acknowledge is not just down me. The CLAG team and the hoardes of volunters were/are a true community group. I fevently hope that the 10 year lease is renewed in 8 1/2 years time, yes its been opened 18 months already.

Chuck

Too right Peter but please don't give up you are a very important part of the community and Calne needs people who give a....

The more the merrier as this is a great town with plenty of issues I promise I will work with everyone to help this town regardless of political persuasion because now it is about US as it always was.

Chuck

Local lass

GTB

Well done, Chuck on a hard fought election that could have gone either way because it was so close in the end. Well done also to Peter and Sophie on fighting your corner as well. As previously stated by other members on here, Calne needs people like yourselves who are prepared to fight for what you believe in. Calnetalk salutes you.

sophy

Congratulations Chuck -- well done.

And to Peter coming such a close second.

I'm very pleased to have got 16% of the vote as I never had the time to knock on any doors like my two fellow candidates, and it shows that environmental issues are important to the people of Calne.

Thank you to everyone who voted for me and showed their support on this forum.

I would be happy to help in the community however I can, and my next plan is to make the Calne Schools Farm Project come to reality. We have sadly lost our council champion Nancy Bryant, but Chuck I hope you will be able to support it.

All the best to everyone!

Local lass

good luck with your farm sopfy its a fantastic idea and i really hope it works.if you would like any help you know where i am

GTB

Here's the Gazette and Herald's header for the news item on their website.

pimpdriver

pimpdriver

Well done Chuck. Well done Peter, Well done Sophy.

We can still work together on issues which affect Calne, like the Traveller Sites. If you need help delivering Calne leaflets, please ask on here, I'm sure we will all help.

I can't believe it was 8 votes, but I think a 40% turnout is pretty good???

Cheers

Steve

Dexter the Flexter

Dead heat in my ward of Calne Central!

Won by Howard Marshall after drawinng lots

Gracious acceptance of the result and the procedure from the Conservative candidate Charles Boase on the Gazette website

Mark Wilkins

Commiserations (not sure if thats spelt right) Peter. County Hall has lost out on at least two extremely capable and knowledgeable candidates with both you and Nancy losing your respective races. I hope Chuck and Christine will represent their wards as well as I know you two would have.

Bearing in mind Calne seats have been all but taken by the Conservatives (save Calne Central which was a lottery!) and that they all publicised heavily their involvement (?) in saving the leisure centre, perhaps they can now work as hard to ensure it receives a fair cut of the central leisure budget and can give Calne children (and presumably Cricklade as well) the same opportunities as the rest of Wiltshire with facilities and opportunities such as free swimming sessions.

I hope the results don't put you and Nancy off standing again at some point. My experience of both of you is that you are not afraid to stand up for what you believe is right and genuinely appear to be in it for the betterment of the town. What better reason can there be?

Thats it from me. Best i steer clear of politics. Not good for your health you know!

Local lass

rest of Wiltshire with facilities and opportunities such as free swimming sessions.

can not see how they can promise that .i am confused with how much the council have control over the sports centre my understanding of it is that that closed and people got it back.i know the council donated money .

Peter Dolman

LL the council did not donate money as such.
The district council gave £60,000 which was in the budget as a cost to decommission the leisure centre. So that money would have been spent one way or the other.
The district's area 5 committee was given money every year to spend on Calne are projects. Not all the money was spent every year and a pool of £83,000 had built up, I applied and received £75,000 for the leisure centre. This was used to buy the new gym equipment.
Other sums of money have been awarded, similar amounts have gone to Cricklade. But the monies Calne & Cricklade have received have only been a fraction Wootton Bassett, Chippenham, Corsham and Malmesbury have received. Yet all residents pay the same taxes, so Calne & Cricklade subsidise the other 4 centres.

Free swimming as promoted by the government is effectively subsided by the government through local councils. This means that private leisure centres not funded by councils will not be included unless there is an arrangement in place for them to be reimbursed.

One of my last acts as a town councillor was to propose to use £50,000 to help save the leisure centre, this was in relation to the aborted Athena Leisure fiasco. I then asked the town council to revisit this resolution so that Calne Leisure Centre Ltd would have the same offer. This was agreed by all the town councillors in the summer of 2007. This was a one off and there is no subsidy in the 2009/10 Calne Town budget. The town council is supportive but not in financial terms any longer.

Biggles

congrats to the winners

Biggles

Peter Dolman

sometimes the old ways are the best ways, it was done by the drawing of lots.
it pure chance, no skill required what better way could there be? (a bit like standing for election)

GTB

It's a bit like a penalty shoot-out.

Peter Dolman

a very good analagy (?) GTB could not have described it better myself.

Local lass

peter wrote
One of my last acts as a town councillor was to propose to use £50,000 to help save the leisure centre, this was in relation to the aborted Athena Leisure fiasco. I then asked the town council to revisit this resolution so that Calne Leisure Centre Ltd would have the same offer. This was agreed by all the town councillors in the summer of 2007. This was a one off and there is no subsidy in the 2009/10 Calne Town budget. The town council is supportive but not in financial terms any longer.
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you use the term to help save the leisure centre is it in danger of going under again?

Local lass

Peter Dolman

LL if you are a shareholder you can attend the AGM on the 24th June, if you are not then you can download an application form or collect 1 from the reception desk. a share cost £10.00 and entitles you to attend AGM's and to vote.

the continued success of the leisure centre or any other community organisation is down to the support it gets from the public as a whole. so to answer your question I expect it to see out the 10 year lease which expires on the 31st August 2017. what will happen then is diffilcult to say but depends on the new unitary authority. they are conducting a review of all leisure provision in the county.

the history of the conservatives, in the last 5 years at north wilts, seems to indicate that they would like to get rid of them all. they were calling for closures in north wilts at least 2 years before Calne & Cricklade closed.

when I approached them (district council) initially about Calne they were rightly very reserved but when they realised we were a serious organisation they were delightly to wash their hands of the centre. they realised that they had picked up a hot potato but had no answer for the problem and succeed or fail they obviously felt they could make political capital out of it with minimal effort on their part.

I and countless others will not allow the centre to fail again, but it brings me back to a well used phrase "use it or lose it".

Chuck

I will keep a close eye on that perceived view and let you know if that is the case - I hope Peter when you imply the Conservatives want to close the centre you have asked all Conservatives - you missed me and I am certainly not trying but maybe the others said they were or just maybe you did not ask them or perhaps do not know!

Who knows? I am unaware of any such plan or wish.

Kind regards,

Chuck

Peter Dolman

chuck before you were elected in 2007 many of your former colleagues on the district council were critical of the lib dem administration for giving North wilts leisure ltd large sums of additional cash to keep them solvent. I agreed with them. They called for the closure of sum or all of the centres, check out old minutes and I think that they will bare me out.
The old county council were known to want to off load leisure centres as they are a drain on councils, and they are. they had plans to close Pewsey.
There is going to be a county wide review of leisure facilities so keep you wits about you and make sure that Calne Leisure Centre (and Cricklade as you live there) get their fair share of any cash hand outs.

Chuck

Thanks for the advice Peter will do.

Chuck

Peter Dolman

A week has passed and I have decided that I will not stand for election again.
I will get involved in local issues (local to the north of Calne) and will be chasing the town council again about the childrens playground at north end.

thank you to all those who have made the effort to vote for me in the past and all the words of support I have received since last Friday.

Chuck

Ok Petert I am sad about that perhaps if you had won the Town Bye then the resut may have been different it was too close as it was!

I will support you where I feel I can.

Kind regards,

Chuck

Peter Dolman

chuck you are ok but we don't see eye to eye on how to resolve issues. you are so quick to agree with everyone that it is unlikely you will ever get anything done, there is always at least 2 sides to any issues (sometimes more than 2)

also you don't seem to be interested in the past, which can often inform you where issues come from.

but in any event you will find out that you now have a thankless task because for every slap on the back you get there will be half a dozen people prepared to kick you.

Chuck

Hi Peter, so from one agle I am too quick to agree then we do not see eye to eye (hmm? either one or the other) As regards history of course lessons can be learned from history and I was VERY interested in your explanation of the history when we spoke at the Polling Station.

If you read what I say carefully what you see as agreement is often empathy and empathy is the first step to delivering meaningful discussion.

I would say in my defence you are too quick to dismiss and use your knowledge of history to justify your thoughts. A fresh approach with each situation is perhaps the best approach.

By the way no posts on the Travellers that moved in over the weekend.

Kind regards,

Chuck
Chuck

Local lass

chuck that wasnt traverlers was it i thought it was from the cuntry and western week end

Chepfer

Peter,

I think you'll find you'll get much more done on a local level anyway to be honest.

You'll have much more of a chance to physically do things for the town, which in my mind is far more honourable.

Sitting around deciding the theories of what is right and wrong and then hoping everyone agrees with you, is what this new council will be about .....

We need people like you, who will actually get off there arses, inspire others to do the same and make a real difference.

Don't let not being elected be a negative thing, use it as positive tool to make things happen .....

Peter Dolman

Chepfer I don't see not getting elected as a negative. I am a doer rather than a thinker, at least thats what people tell me. I deemed it important that Calne needed a strong independant voice at county level and I still think that. I just hope that those elected can fill that criteria, although I have my doubts, time and history will tell me ifr I was right or wrong.

Chuck I have been away all weekend but there is a thread about the "travellers". this could be your chance to show us how effective you can be!