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Local lass

Testing on animals

Agree or disagree
WeAreSTFC

Re: Testing on animals

I vote no, animals feel pain and emotion just like us, why should they suffer just for human c**ts who destroy the planet?

If as many humans were pumped full of expermental chemicals, dissected alive, and killed and toruted through various means for these drugs, cosmetics etc, when they didn't want to be, there'd be uproar
Local lass

I did think that stfc but we had this discussion on a nother forum what about medical testing.Agreed they should never be tested on for the sake of cosmetics but for medicine Roll eyes
WeAreSTFC

Local lass wrote:
I did think that stfc but we had this discussion on a nother forum what about medical testing.Agreed they should never be tested on for the sake of cosmetics but for medicine Roll eyes


medicine is just as bad... still testing, still evil.
Local lass

they do a vast amount of testing on cancer reserch on animals.would you go as far to say that if you ever had cancer you would refuse treatment because of it?
or if you had a head ache would you refuse a paracetamal because of it?
if i had my way i would make them test it on the inmates of the prisons.
WeAreSTFC

Local lass wrote:
they do a vast amount of testing on cancer reserch on animals.would you go as far to say that if you ever had cancer you would refuse treatment because of it?
or if you had a head ache would you refuse a paracetamal because of it?
if i had my way i would make them test it on the inmates of the prisons.


the cancer thing, I would take other medicine.

the headache thing, yes, I have had nasty headaches etc and never taken parcetamol except once and I regret

so would I
Local lass

if they can find cures for cancer/menigitus and other life threatning illness by testing on animals then so be it.as far as i know there is no other way at presant.
WeAreSTFC

Local lass wrote:
if they can find cures for cancer/menigitus and other life threatning illness by testing on animals then so be it.as far as i know there is no other way at presant.


they don't actually need to test on animals.
shockwave

We shouldn't test on animals. it's not just our Planet, they have a right to roam free, not to be cooped in some lab. The whole testing should be voluntarily. As Wooler said, they feel plain too.
Bear

I know this will probably provoke a strong reaction but if a person is against animal testing on animals does that mean that they will be a vegatarian I have never quite been able to understand those who are against it yet sit down at Sunday lunch time to roast beef with all the trimmings.
Local lass

to be fair though most animals are humanly killied there is very little suffering involved.
see your point though bear i expect they eat factory farmed chicken. Roll eyes
rosco

I voted yes for testing: I do think that care should be taken to only do what is necessary and use other means where possible, but if animal testing involves avoiding human suffering, then I am in favour.
Kizzy

I don't think we should test on animals for cosmetic use - as cosmetics are not compulsary for everyday life, we choose to use them

However for medical research I am undecided, yes we need to test medications to see how dangerous they are and what effects they have, but how close are animals in our genetic make up? I'm sure rabbits and rats are not that close to us. I do agree with local lass about testing on prisoners who have commited serious crimes against humanity (especially if they are in for life).

And for the record I hardly eat meat, sometimes a bit of chicken but mostly I eat Quorn, due to the fact I have gone off meat, I'd rather just have the vegetables, yorkshire pud and gravy on that roast beef dinner
WeAreSTFC

Local lass wrote:
to be fair though most animals are humanly killied there is very little suffering involved.
see your point though bear i expect they eat factory farmed chicken. Roll eyes


I eat meat... but always check it's from somewhere where the animals are kept well and allowed to have proper lives and then humanely killed... they get no lives in these disgusting labs.

and rosco... what about animal suffering? why should they suffer for us? I think that's a bit sad, would you torture a baby and kill it just for that????
Local lass

why should they suffer for us?

you have opened up a can of worms now :lol:
so based on your comments that you are make sure animals dont suffer for your needs.i take it you dont wear leather shoes or coats,
that you dont use gillette or loreal product (as they test on animals big time)
that god forbid but if a close reletive was to become extreamly il;l you wouldnt let them get treated as the medicine used to treat them was tested on animals.
i also take it from your comment that you dont shop in icelands as they all chicken in there is factory farmed.
animals are put on to this earth for the sole purpose of providing for humans.

i totaly disagree in animal testing for cosmetics but for medine whats another way?
WeAreSTFC

so based on your comments that you are make sure animals dont suffer for your needs.i take it you dont wear leather shoes or coats,

No, my trainers are plastic, etc etc

that you dont use gillette or loreal product (as they test on animals big time)

Nope

that god forbid but if a close reletive was to become extreamly il;l you wouldnt let them get treated as the medicine used to treat
them was tested on animals.

Most of my realtives use homeopathy, as I do myself

i also take it from your comment that you dont shop in icelands as they all chicken in there is factory farmed.

I used to, but I haven't for years now since I found out.

animals are put on to this earth for the sole purpose of providing for humans.

How could they be?????

i totaly disagree in animal testing for cosmetics but for medine whats another way?

Test the drugs using technology, or, alternative medicine.
Local lass

animals are put on to this earth for the sole purpose of providing for humans.

How could they be?????

food

i totaly disagree in animal testing for cosmetics but for medine whats another way?

Test the drugs using technology, or, alternative medicine.

from what i understand though is that they get a clearer result by testing on animals.medicne is mostly tested on monkeys because of the dna being so close.
WeAreSTFC

Local lass wrote:
animals are put on to this earth for the sole purpose of providing for humans.

How could they be?????

food

i totaly disagree in animal testing for cosmetics but for medine whats another way?

Test the drugs using technology, or, alternative medicine.

from what i understand though is that they get a clearer result by testing on animals.medicne is mostly tested on monkeys because of the dna being so close.


so why do we not just take 20 people off the street, kill 10 of them in the most disgusting way possible, and make the other 10 breed so we can kill their children in the most disgusting way possible, just to cure a disease in monkeys??

The answer: Because it would be vile thing to do, and we are doing it to innocent animals every day in this country
Local lass

so why do we not just take 20 people off the street, kill 10 of them in the most disgusting way possible, and make the other 10 breed so we can kill their children in the most disgusting way possible, just to cure a disease in monkeys??

The answer: Because it would be vile thing to do, and we are doing it to innocent animals every day in this country

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because humans are regarded as more superier than animals.

sftc dont get me wrong if i had my way i would do all the tests on lifers what are in the jails like ian huntley and rose west.
WeAreSTFC

Local lass wrote:
so why do we not just take 20 people off the street, kill 10 of them in the most disgusting way possible, and make the other 10 breed so we can kill their children in the most disgusting way possible, just to cure a disease in monkeys??

The answer: Because it would be vile thing to do, and we are doing it to innocent animals every day in this country

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because humans are regarded as more superier than animals.

sftc dont get me wrong if i had my way i would do all the tests on lifers what are in the jails like ian huntley and rose west.


humans are superior to animals, but that doesn't mean they should suffer.
Local lass

humans are superior to animals, but that doesn't mean they should suffer.

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quite agree

telll me do you agree with the people that break in to trhe labs that let the animals out?
WeAreSTFC

Local lass wrote:
humans are superior to animals, but that doesn't mean they should suffer.

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quite agree

telll me do you agree with the people that break in to trhe labs that let the animals out?


no, that's terrorism, which in my view is as bad as the people who test on animals.
Calli

WeAreSTFC wrote:
Local lass wrote:
humans are superior to animals, but that doesn't mean they should suffer.

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quite agree

telll me do you agree with the people that break in to trhe labs that let the animals out?


no, that's terrorism, which in my view is as bad as the people who test on animals.



I would totally agree with that sentiment
Local lass

i would as well .
the thing if what people dont realise is the damage to the enviroment by letting them out.if you remember some idiots let a load of mink out as they were bred for there pelts and the damage they caused was huge.
Bear

STFC what about testing on Oxford United supporters
GTB

Bear wrote:
I know this will probably provoke a strong reaction but if a person is against animal testing on animals does that mean that they will be a vegatarian I have never quite been able to understand those who are against it yet sit down at Sunday lunch time to roast beef with all the trimmings.


I have never thought about it like that, Bear but you are correct. I suppose the main difference between testing animals for medicine and rearing animals for meat is that pain is a necessary by-product of testing. Testing for the cause of vanity should have been outlawed decades ago.
Clunk

They should test on murderers, rapists and pedophiles. But that would probably be against human rights or something.
WeAreSTFC

Bear wrote:
STFC what about testing on Oxford United supporters


Oh definitely

Get them up in big nets and put in trucks

Got a lot to say for taking the nets to Bristol as well
Local lass

i had a look at you tube and typed in animal testing it is horrible :cry:
WeAreSTFC

Local lass wrote:
i had a look at you tube and typed in animal testing it is horrible :cry:


Exactly.
Calli

Local lass wrote:
i had a look at you tube and typed in animal testing it is horrible :cry:


Seen some pretty gross things on you tube
WeAreSTFC

Calli wrote:
Local lass wrote:
i had a look at you tube and typed in animal testing it is horrible :cry:


Seen some pretty gross things on you tube


Some posted by me.






I'll keep my mouth shut now.
Local lass

to be honest stfc i should say sorry to you .since this thread started i have argued that animal testing for medicine is ok and needs to be done.
when i did see the you tube stuff i was horrified and there is no way i could ever conedon that.
WeAreSTFC

Local lass wrote:
to be honest stfc i should say sorry to you .since this thread started i have argued that animal testing for medicine is ok and needs to be done.
when i did see the you tube stuff i was horrified and there is no way i could ever conedon that.


indeed

was a joke about the video's mind... I've only ever posted video's of Swindon pictures and my dog Cool

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