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| Top Dog |
Message to womenTaken this from another forum.Although the likley hood of this happening to us in calne are very remote it could be worth knowing. we had this alert sent to us from one of our workforce. it has originated from the police, and even though it's a very depressing subject ( insofar as it shows how awfull people can be ) I thought it might be a good idear to post it here as I reckon it will reach more women this way, than if I just send it to my familly. take care please. TELL ALL FEMALES .. THIS IS NOT NICE! An important message from the Police - please pass this along to all the women you know..... This actually happened a few weeks ago on the M3 Fleet services . It was early evening and a young girl stopped to get petrol. She filled her tank and walked into the store to pay for her petrol. The cashier told her 'Don't pay for your petrol yet.....walk around the store for a while and act as if you're picking up some other things to buy. A man just got into the back of your car. I've called the police and they're on their way'. When the police arrived, they found the man in the back seat of the girl's car and asked him what he was doing. He replied, he was joining a gang and the initiation to join is to kidnap a woman and bring her back to the gang to be raped by every member of the gang. If the woman was still alive by the time they finish with her then they let her go. According to the police that night, there is a new gang forming here originating from London . The scary part of this is because the guy didn't have a weapon on him. The police could only charge him with trespassing.... He's back on the street and free to try again. Please be aware of what's going on around you and for your family and friends. LADIES you or one of your family and friends could be the next victim. Please forward this on to everyone you know. Please do not discard this message it is very important that everyone knows what is happening. Please be careful when leaving your vehicle and make sure it is ALWAYS locked to prevent this from happening to you. MET POLICE Subject: POLICE INFORMATION - NOT A JOKE - ACTUAL SAFETY ADVICE This first bit is mainly for women, but boys please read it and send it onto any women you care about. The second bit is a warning to all of us! Some sound advice for us all as we all sometimes forget to take our common sense with us when we go out. This is from Northants Police.. Women.... In light of the recent kidnapping and now murder of Leigh Mathews I think it is important to read the following info for your own safety. Things women should know to stay safe: Please Take the time to read these pointers. There may just be one or two you hadn't thought of. After reading this, forward it to someone you care about. It never hurts to be careful in this crazy world we live in. 1. Tip from Tae Kwon Do: The elbow is the strongest point on your body. If you are close enough to use it, do! 2. If a robber asks for your handbag, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM. Toss it away from you.... he is probably more interested in your handbag than you and he will go for the handbag. RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION! 3. If you are ever thrown into the boot of a car: Kick out the back tail lights and stick your arm through the hole and start waving. The driver won't see you but everybody else will. This has saved lives. 4.Women have a tendency to get into their cars after shopping, eating, working, etc., and just sit (doing their cheque book, or making a list). DON'T DO THIS! A predator could be watching you, and this is the perfect opportunity for him to get in on the passenger side, and attack you. AS SOON AS YOU GET INTO YOUR CAR, LOCK THE DOORS AND LEAVE. 5. A few notes about getting into your car in a car park: A.) Be aware: look around you, look into your car, at the passenger side floor, and check the back seat. B.) If you are parked next to a big van, enter your car from the passenger door. Most attackers surprise their victims by pulling them into their vans while the women are attempting to get into their cars. C.) Look at the car parked on the driver's side of your vehicle, and the passenger side. If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your car, you may want to walk back into the shop, or work, and get a guard/policeman to walk you back out. IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY. (And better paranoid than dead.) 6. ALWAYS take the lift instead of the stairs. Stairwells are horrible places to be alone and the perfect crime spot. 7. If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control, ALWAYS RUN! The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 in 100 times; and even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ. RUN! 8. As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic: STOP IT! It may get you raped, or killed. Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a good- looking, well educated man, who ALWAYS played on the sympathies of unsuspecting women. He walked with a cane, or a limp, and often asked 'for help' into his vehicle or with his vehicle, which is when he abducted his next victim. 9. Another Safety Point: Someone just told me that her friend heard a crying baby on her porch the night before last, and she called the police because it was late and she thought it was weird. The police told her 'Whatever you do, DO NOT open the door.' The lady then said that it sounded like the baby had crawled near a window, and she was worried that it would crawl to the street and get run over. The policeman said, 'We already have a unit on the way, whatever you do, DO NOT open the door.' He told her that they think a serial killer has a baby's cry recorded and uses it to coax women out of their homes thinking that someone dropped off a baby. He said they have not verified it, but have had several calls by women saying that they hear babies' cries outside their doors when they're home alone at night. Please pass this on and DO NOT open the door for a crying baby. I'd like you to forward this to all the women you know. It may save a life. A candle is not dimmed by lighting another candle. Send this to any woman you know that may need to be reminded that the world we live in has a lot of crazies in it and it's better safe than sorry. NORTHAMPTONSHIRE POLICE - Visit us at http://www.northants.police.uk/ <http://www.northants.police.uk/> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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| GTB |
This bloke also sounds like a fantasist or a sicko wannabe. |
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| Kizzy |
I always lock my car doors when filling up at a petrol station and I'm on my own - ever since I saw an episode of Crimewatch and they had an incident similar to this one on there | ||||
| rosco |
Load of rubbish I am afraid:
http://www.snopes.com/crime/prevent/ninetips.asp |
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| kathy27 |
Well its made me think.
If i have to go out at night alone and i do to be a taxi for the kids, i will be putting one of my dogs in the back, i'd rather not take any chances. |
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| Top Dog |
Makes you think though. 
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| rosco |
Makes you think how people can become paranoid about things for which there is an insignificant chance of occurring (such as the scenarios given) whereas they become blasé about things far more likely (such as being involved in a road crash). |
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| Bear |
I take your point Rosco but I work in the Criminal Justice System and I can assure you that there are more sick and weird people out there than you would imagine and I think we should all be aware of any danger no matter how slim it may be. | ||||
| kathy27 |
I think its better to be safe than sorry. Rape is something a women will never get over 100% no matter how many men are involved.
Also if women are out in a pub......watch your drinks, dont except a drink from the nice looking man, unless your with him when he's getting it. Date rape does happen and it does happen in calne! |
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| rosco |
Yes, but how likely is it? We could all get killed by a lightening bolt or an aeroplane suddenly falling out of the sky, but should be we worried about it and taking precautions? I have a problem with precautionary tales like this being circulated, stirring up people's fears and making them take steps to avoid/be prepared for scenarios which are statistically insignificant. |
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| kathy27 |
Rosco are you the sort of person that would use a lift even though there was a warning sign on it......because it might not happen to you?
Is it not better to be for warned and yes maybe air on the side of caution. |
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| rosco |
Nope, I'd take the stairs in most cases as a matter of principle anyway! 
I basically just take issue with worrying about issues that are, in practical purposes, extremely unlikely to happen. It seems to stem from public hysteria fed by sensationalistic journalism, which creates an unfounded fear when analysed statistically. If you read this book about Innumeracy, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Innumerac...cy-Its-Consequences/dp/0809058405 it indicates some of this principle, where due to a general lack of understanding of maths, the majority of people are flumoxed by concepts such as interest rates, statistics and estimation and make incorrect decisions as a a result. Yes, you could be abducted and placed in the boot of someone's car, but how often has that actually happened? How much more likely are you to be killed in a car crash? Or to have an accident in the home? Surely it is far more useful to be aware and prepare for these likely events rather than the highly improbable? Many, many unpleasant things could happen to anyone, but I really don't think that life's about being aware and prepared for them all, do you? (And this ignores the quite obvious American slant in the original article, such that it has even less application to us in the UK anyway, as in many/most of these supposed 'warnings' that get circulated.) |
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| kathy27 |
But surely people can be made aware and prepare for any event, even the ones that dont happen that often!
Its impossible to be prepared for every event life throws at you, however the more information you receive can surley only be a good thing. How many time have you heard people say....but it doesn't happen to people like me? |
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