Fynamore School

Peter Dolman · Fynamore School

I have noticed for the last few days police no waiting bollards around Isis Close and near the roundabout on School Road. The school I understand has also asked parents/guardians bringing children to school to park responsibly.
Not before time if you are one of the long suffering residents.

If you take your children (or any body elses) by car to the Fynamore School has this affected you?

Local lass

Like i have said to you before peter some parents do park iresponsibly there.i would agree with that.However is the design of the school was better there wouldnt be such a problem..
The cones do stop people parking on the junctions which is a good thing however those that do park on them now go further in to the estate and all its doing is pushing people to do that.

rosco

Local lass

yes it is really that part of the estate by the school is quite small.
the road to the left off iris close isnt made for the amount of cars what go up there dropping there kids off.then you get the people of the houses getting annoyed becuase people park out side there houses .they are not blocking anything by doing so and it perfectly legal to do so.there is no designated parking places.

Chepfer

As i understand it, there is a designated car park for parents collecting children though.

Isn't it in the football club or somewhere, i read it in a school statement last week.

If people are to lazy to walk that short distance, then help us all !

Local lass

yes it is chepfer you can pick them upfrom the football club.problem is though chepfer the way as it currently stands there is no right of way for people walking across the roads depite the fact that over 800 people cross it each day.people bomb along there and it isnt safe so people choose to park in the estates and school road.

should also add that the people up bremhill view is not that happy with the added traffic in the day going to the football club

Peter Dolman

LL residents by the school are getting annoyed. Why, because they often cannot get their own cars of their drives because parents will obstruct them or even park on the drives.
I have said it many times before the estate and school were deliberately designed the way it is. Why, because the designers/planners envisaged parents walking their offspring to school.

The car park outside the North Star Club is nominally designated as a drop off point as is/was the Bremhill View Social Club car park.
From both "car parks" it is only a couple of minutes walk to the school.

I am pleased that the school seems to have finally decided to take a lead in this matter.

Local lass

rightly so that the residents get annoyed if people block there drive way or park in there drive.however they should have thought of the volume of traffic when they decided to buy there its not as though the school is the new feature.

as for it being designed that way what numpty agreed to that.most houses these days have 2 cars .most people drop there kids off at school before going tgo work .most people work outside of calne.most cars up there are doing nothing wrong.there has also been comments in the school news letter asking people not to park by the coffe shop if they dont intend to purchase a coffe which is wrong .up at the shop there is no parking resctions and people by right could park there all day if they wish.although i do disagree with the a certain member of staff who works in tesco parking in the disabled spot all day .

if this was the 70s when most mothers stayed at home all day then the design wouldnt have been so bad but its not the 70s its the 00y and the population has soared and peoples needs has changed so why do they design estates and buildings what do not meet peoples needs.

i noticed yesterday that trinity not only have a zebra but also a lolly pop lady .
this simple measure up fynamore would solve a lot of the car parking problems up there .it would make the road so much safer and more people would drop there kids off at the football club.
at present they have w walking bus which you drop your kid off the football club then there is a group of parents who walk the children over to the school.
problem with this is you have to have a certain amount of adults for the children you also have to register the children to do this .which isnt ideal if you have a mix of days where you dropp off or walk.

best solution what will stop a lot of cars there is

zebra crossing
lollypop lady

Peter Dolman

it took years & years of campaigning to get the crossing outside the trinity and thats for the mian A4.
To get the ball rolling you will need to persuade your local Wilts Council councillors that is Chuck Berry and Tony Trotman that you have a case. Then with their help persuade the highways department to include the cost in their next budget.
Chuck/Tony/Highways will have many other people trying to get their own projects accepted.
If you look at other projects in Calne like the state of the roads/paths that need money spent on them it does not take a lot for requests to be pushed to the bottom of the pile.

The estate design, including the school, if I remember right won an award and was considered to be cutting edge.

I accept it is an emotive subject but the local residents do have a right, morally if not legally, to access their property and I applaud the school for finally biting the bullet for taking a stance with its parents.

The school can have a lolly pop person strait away but the cost will come out of their budget. Speak to the head teacher and/or chair of governors.

Chepfer

Actually i can see both points of view ... yes it is theoreticaly a good idea to have a school which will be used by walking children only

BUT in reality the school has been expanded to accept 400 children ... and they wont all be coming from the local estate will they, as there arn't that many children of that age in the area.

So some parents will have to drive ...

Trinity has approx 200 children as do most of the other schools in calne, parking is bad enough for them, let alone a school double that size.

Though i will say that most people at Trinity do walk, some as far away as bryans close road - every morning. Wlaking to school is quite a big thing there and the kids prefer it too !

daffy

I think this is a problem with any schools ,lack of parking .
I live across the rd from queens cres school in chippenham ,i have come home before to find cars bloking my driveway and some one i only now in passing parking on my drive because they was late picking there son up .

some of the parents will double park so the buses dont get threw and some looks like they have just abandond there cars a foot from the kerb and right on a corner ,there has been so many reminders in the news letters about the parking.

Peter Dolman

st dunstans and priestley are also big junior schools with numbers similar to Fynamore. why should the fynamore be treated differently?

Calne18

They have traffic calming already, priestly has the give way hump things and so does sdunstan!

Local lass

Peter Dolman

its not, they can have a lollypop lady if they want one but they have to apy for it.
school road is still the responsibility of the developers so complain to them about the lack of any traffic calming.

Local lass

The school has no authority over where people park.

Peter Dolman

I never said or implied that they did but they can recruit there own lollypop lady if they want to.

Local lass

unforyunatley that has already been tried and was turned down.few years back

Peter Dolman

but you would like a lollypop person so if you can enough people to support you, you can "persuade" the school to change its mind

Local lass

look back when the school had not long opened and the guy justin wanted a lolly pop he did it hisself in the end cos the school wasnt intrested.

Peter Dolman

I cannot comment but does that mean the school does not think a lollypop person is neccessary?

Local lass

aparently it wasnt then so whats the diffence now\/

Chepfer

Hasn't the school been pretty much doubled in size in terms of students ?

I'd guess that would make a pretty big impact on the local area !

Local lass

NO it hasnt doubled in size the at present they are putting on 7 classroom but these are to rplace the porta cabins what they are using at the momnet

Chepfer

Sorry local, it was this that caught my eye from last year ....... its the way you read it i guess ..lol

So was the school built temporarily for 400 or built for 200 and they had to make it bigger, without any thought for parking ! ?.

http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk...ol_gets_2m_to_replace_classrooms/"

Fynamore School opened seven years ago to cope with children from new housing in the northern part of Calne. Since then the number of pupils has doubled to more than 400".

Local lass

i guess thats why the portacabins was there in the first place.stupid thing is that braemor road is not in its catchment area yet you have kids that go there from chippenham and south calne

Chepfer

Though i am guessing that there are not 400 kids of that age in the area anyway. So the planners must have known kids from other areas would be going there in cars ..... and they still didnt build a car park - it's daft !

It's like building an out of town store, with no car park ..... and expecting it to be used by locals only - who walk !

Local lass

that is exactley my point chepfer.

Peter Dolman

the fynamore school does have a car park, the same as most of calne's school but they are for staff & visitors.
the school was built for the new build houses but due to all the students driven/bused in from far and wide temporary classrooms were added and added and added.
there are no "catchment" areas anymore thats why people come from far and wide.

the school does have a reduced sports field which could I supose be build on to provide a car park but that does not make sense to me! where else would you suggest a car park is put because the school does not have the land or the money to provide one.

Chepfer

I couldn't suggest anywhere and i think that the point .......

It should have been thought about by the planners a little more thoghrouly, in the pre construction phase.

You cant build a house without relevant parking provision, or a supermarket without proper access routes ..... what makes a school any different.

Chuck · Area Board

Why not come along and express your views at the area board on Tuesday 7pm,
Town Hall
Chuck

Peter Dolman

I understood the meeting was at 6:30!

The school was not predicted to be as big as it is hence the design!

robstokes

Picking up on some old stuff and sorry if I repeat stuff other people have said but this issue has really annoyed me.

I have children at the school and yes, unfortunately, there are times when I do have to take them by car as I then have to go to work straight from dropping them off. There are also a couple of times a week when I pick my youngest child up from nursery and meet someone at the school to take them home at the end of the school day.

Parking on the football club grounds is unrealistic as there is this sudden surge of cars and traffic all around the area and along the road which actually therefore can make it quite dangerous.

Also, as I would have to drive PAST the school in order to get to the "designated car park" then this is meaning that I have to drve further, creating more traffic around the football ground area and using my car more thus increasing global warming and damage to the local environment (!).

Seriously, if people parked sensibly then this would not be an issue. There is no law which says it is illegal to park outside someone's house (in unrestricted areas) and I certainly don't get all irate and complain to the police or my local councillor if someone parks outside my house. I accept it and go on to do things far more important in my daily life.

I have no issue with the police enforcing parking restrictions on the corners of the roads in the area as you shouldn't be parking on street corners but stopping you parking at the side of the road when the majority of the residents probably are at work so not even there is not realistic.

On the basis that it has always been obvious that there was going to be a school there then local residents should expect when they moved in or bought their house that there would have an increase in traffic at a couple of times a day but really, it's a total of less than one hour in the whole day. I used to live near a school before I moved down here, and that was on one of one of the main routes into Birmingham City Centre and the parents used to park at the side of the road (both sides) with traffic doing around 40mph down it. No-one was worried, no-one complained and the nearest crossing place was about 600yds in either direction.

I read recently in the schools newsletter that the police are planning on requesting that the road be changed to restricted access for residents and visitors to the school only and that lines are going to be painted down to stop parking. If people just used common sense, had a bit of consideration for others (drivers for residents AND vice versa) then all of this would pass over and nothing would be needed to be done.

Also, surely for those residents who ARE there during the day, if they restrict parking during certain hours of the day then this is going to impact on them also.

A little more thought needs to be put into this methinks.

Local lass

read recently in the schools newsletter that the police are planning on requesting that the road be changed to restricted access for residents and visitors to the school only and that lines are going to be painted down to stop parking. If people just used common sense, had a bit of consideration for others (drivers for residents AND vice versa) then all of this would pass over and nothing would be needed to be done.
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if thats the case then no need to worry as each time you drop your child at school you are a visitor

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