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Local lass

For those who live in lansdowne park.....

mainly for those in iris close,school road
STOP COMPLAINING TO THE SCHOOL ABOUT PARENTS WHO PARK THERE CARS ON THE ESTATE.FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS...

you brought a house close to the school surley you had the insight to see that there would be problems.

parking the cars on the estate is perfectly legal there are no double yellow lines.

the offical car park to the school is the football club car park.There is no pedestrian crossing on school road.As the cars go fast up there it is safer to park the cars in the estate.


The school can do nothing to help you they havnt got the power.try the local councils to place proper pedestrian crossings that way more parents would let there children walk to the school.

i know its a pain in the backside with all the cars parking but like i said before they are doing nothing wrong.
pimpdriver

Well said!

It is all true. When you buy a house you have to consider the location fully, at different times of the day.....

Its a bit like the Hercules flying overhead, personally I absolutely love it.

Our 4 year old daughter has learnt that they are Hercules, I am now teaching her if they are C130J or C130K models.

She also know about Chinooks too "wokka wokka daddy"

Its like people who complain about airports or nuclear power stations near their houses..... they were there when you bought the house, and the price probably reflected it!

You can't have your cake and eat it!

Steve
Local lass

Exactley.

sometimes in the dead of night if the hercules are on calne side of lyneham you can hear them..
i dont mind the planes.
Bear

Whilst everthing that has been said is true I must say that it all stems from the planners. Who are they and what qualifications do they have to have to become planners ? Do they have to have more than one brain cells if so what went wrong with our lot?
Local lass

recieved the latest newsletter from the school and now real life cafe is complaining because of the cars parked in frount of the shop :shock:
The school says dont park  in frount of the shop unless you use it.

well as its a complex of shops you park where you can find .
whats it going to be like when the houses round the back get build/
pimpdriver

Local lass wrote:
recieved the latest newsletter from the school and now real life cafe is complaining because of the cars parked in frount of the shop :shock:
The school says dont park  in frount of the shop unless you use it.

well as its a complex of shops you park where you can find .
whats it going to be like when the houses round the back get build/


Its a free car park as far as I was aware..... Won't be buying my holiday home from Real Life then........
Bear

As there is talk on another thread on this forum about the Lickhill by-election two questions spring to mind, firstly is Fynamore school within that ward and secondly if so do any of those standing mention the school and how it is accessed by parents delivering their children to school
Clunk

My kids mum, lives in breamor road. My kids go to Dunstan. How does that work?
Also my cousin lives in Dixon way. His kids go to Priestly.
How on earth do they decide who goes where? I have even seen kids walk past Dunstan to go to StEdmonds. Surely they should go to the closest school.
We need some politicians on this forum.
Local lass

its all to do with catch ment areas of the school.
fynamor was originally build to serve the new estate.braemor roads catchment is st dunstuns not fynamore.

Bear wrote=As there is talk on another thread on this forum about the Lickhill by-election two questions spring to mind, firstly is Fynamore school within that ward and secondly if so do any of those standing mention the school and how it is accessed by parents delivering their children to school

i would also like this information
Peter Dolman

This problem arises from the fact that this school was designed to be school for the local community and it was envisaged that the majority of its pupils would walk to school. Because it was built before the houses the school was promoted to all and sundry. This lead to children from as far afield as Chippenham coming to the school.

Under the goverments parents choice legislation schools no longer have a catchment area which means that the children can go anywhere the parents can get the accepted.

I accept that car drivers have a right to park on the public highway but it is not acceptable to park on someones driveway or to block them as has happened on many occassions.

In these days when we should all look to reduce our carbon footprints I find it unacceptable for children to be driven past perfectly good schools just to get to one that considered more fashionable.

Why do these parents expect to have a right for a car park when other schools have to cope without one?
The houses around the school are in Lickhill Ward unlike many of the parents of the children, those who are walk anyway.
There are plans in the pipe line to build extra classrooms which will only add to the traffic problems as will the proposed community hall (if its built) and the extra houses in Lickhill Road.

There used to be a weight limit in Lickhill Road which stopped HGV's but this was removed due to the intervention of 1 of the candidates in the forthcoming election.

What is the solution I don't know?
Local lass

peter wrote
Why do these parents expect to have a right for a car park when other schools have to cope without one?
The houses around the school are in Lickhill Ward unlike many of the parents of the children, those who are walk anywayeter

parents do not expect right over a car park.
what parents expect is that they can be able to take and pick up there child safley.something what isnt happening at the moment.

Many people drop there child of to school on there way to work.

People in the houses should complain if there driveways get blocked of corse that is unfair.

The solution should be to make it safer to those who walk.i.e a proper pedestrian crossing,signs stating that there is a school there and a speed limit sign.

and to sack who ever designed the area.and to stop it becoming worse.

most schools do not have a car park  i would agree in that it just seems odd that the one school what does has the car park three streets away.

someone will get killed up there .
Peter Dolman

I have to disagree with local lass, Fynamore School does not have a car park an agreement was made so parents can park in the Bremhill View car park. A footpath was laid down across the landscaped area for parents and children to walk from there to the school.

This arrangement is not permanent and could be terminated.

A footpath has also been established from the Bremhillview Social Club which leads across the playing field to the roundabout in School Road. This is under threat as the proposed new community hall will be built on this walk way.

The carpark outside the shops are for the benefit of shop customers and not the for the sole benefit of parents. Customers get upset as they cannot park and shop owners are concerned as they lose business. This is a situation where everyone gets upset.

I will say again parents do not have a right to park inappropriately, surely they ought to walk their children to school and if they cannot chose a school where they can.

The parking on the roundabout in school road is unacceptable and will surely result in an accident some day. Cars are having to move across the centre of the road to avoid badley parked cars or to swerve when someone pulls away without checking their rear view mirrors.

Car drivers need to be vigilante and carefull, they need to be more thoughtfull!
pimpdriver

Peter Dolman wrote:

The parking on the roundabout in school road is unacceptable and will surely result in an accident some day. Cars are having to move across the centre of the road to avoid badley parked cars or to swerve when someone pulls away without checking their rear view mirrors.

Car drivers need to be vigilante and carefull, they need to be more thoughtfull!


Parking on the roundabout??? Never been round at that time of the day so I haven't seen it.

It does seem to me that people remove their brains when they pick up their kids in the cars....... and just want to find somewhere to park at all costs.
Local lass

Peter Dolman wrote:
I have to disagree with local lass, Fynamore School does not have a car park an agreement was made so parents can park in the Bremhill View car park. A footpath was laid down across the landscaped area for parents and children to walk from there to the school.

Big Smile SO IF A FOOT PATH WAS LAID DOWN FOR THAT USE WHY WASNT A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING??



The carpark outside the shops are for the benefit of shop customers and not the for the sole benefit of parents. Customers get upset as they cannot park and shop owners are concerned as they lose business. This is a situation where everyone gets upset.

Big Smile THE PROBLEM WITH THE WHOLE AREA IS IT IS TO BUILT UP THERE IS TO MANY HOUSES .SURLEY SOMEONE WHO DESIGNED THAT AREA WOULD HAVE HAD THE SENCE TO SEE THE FUTURE PROBLEMS .UNDERSTANDABLEY THE SHOPS WOULD GET UPSET REAL CAFE IS BOUND TO YET TESCOS DO A ROARING TRADE.
THERE IS NO SIGNS THAT YOU CAN ONLY PARK THERE IF YOU USE THE SHOPS.

I will say again parents do not have a right to park inappropriately, surely they ought to walk their children to school and if they cannot chose a school where they can.

BY INAPPROPRIATLEY I TAKE IT YOU MEAN ON THE ROAD WHERE IT IS PERFECTLEY LEGAL TO DO SO.GRANTED SOME PEOPLE DO GO IN A CAR INSTED OF WALKING.LIKE I SAID BEFORE MANY PEOPLE DROP THERE CHILDREN OFF BEFORE WORK.DISABLED PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO GO PARK IN THE DISABLED ZONE AT THE SCHOOLS CAR PARK BUT ITS HARD TO GET TO THE CAR PARK.

The parking on the roundabout in school road is unacceptable and will surely result in an accident some day. Cars are having to move across the centre of the road to avoid badley parked cars or to swerve when someone pulls away without checking their rear view mirrors.
Big Smile THERE ARE NO YELLOW LINES ON THAT ROAD AND PERFECTLY LEGAL TO PARK THERE.
IF PARKED REAL CLOSE TO THE ROUNDABOUT THEN YES THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE.
LIKE IT OR NOT YOU WILL NEVER GET RID OF ALL THE CARS ON A SCHOOL RUN.
I HAVE SPOKE TO QUITE A FEW PARENTS WHO ALL SAY THAT DESPITE THERE CHILD BEING OF A AGE WHERE THEY CAN WALK HOME ON THERE OWN  THEY REFUSE TO LET THEM BECAUSE OF SCHOOL ROAD.

DUNSTONS SCHOOL HAS OR USED TO HAVE A LOOLY POP LADY AND YET  SCHOOL ROAD IS A DAM SITE BUSIER THAN WILLIAM STREET AND YET THE PEDESDIANS HAVE NO RIGHT OF WAY THROUGH OUT THAT ROAD.
WHICH IS WHY PEOPLE WILL NOT PARK IN THE FOOTBALL CLUB CARPARK AND WILL CONTINUE TO PARK ON THE ESTATE AND SCHOOL ROAD.

BASICALY THE DEVELOPER WHO DESIGNED THAT AREA SHOULD BE SACKED AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RESPONSABLE FOR IT SHOULD ADMIT THAT  HAVE MADE A COMPLETE COCK UP .

Car drivers need to be vigilante and carefull, they need to be more thoughtfull!
Big Smile THAT PART I WILL AGREE WITH YOU ON .
Bear

Go for it Local Lass. Are you standing for the Lickhill by-election again Peter seems to me your trying to get the locl residents vote?
Peter Dolman

lansdowne park

I agree the density of the houses in new estates is to high but, this is set down by central government in an effort to increase the number of houses built. Thats one of the reasons why houses have next to no gardens.

I would point out that I am not a candidate in the bye election.

I believe the new estate is still under the control of the developer  until its handed over to the "authorities" (Wilts County Council etc).

Who is going to pay for a crossing, answer the County Council. All requests should go to your county councillors. Calne has 2 Tony Trotman & Nancy Bryant who can be found on the WCC web site.

The County Council are also responsible for the state of the footpaths. They have not spent, as they do not have a budget to do so, on footpaths in Calne for many years.

Fact that some 400 houses (behind the shops & includes Newbury Ave) are not legally part of Calne and do not pay Calne any taxes.

The developers are responsible for all matters untill the development is handed over. So the answer to who is responsible it is  Persimmon and or WCC!
Local lass

Fact that some 400 houses (behind the shops & includes Newbury Ave) are not legally part of Calne and do not pay Calne any taxes.

The developers are responsible for all matters untill the development is handed over. So the answer to who is responsible it is  Persimmon and or WCC!


they must pay some sort of tax :shock:

wcc must have input on what the developers are doing./done


the school are thinking about getting kids dropped off at the football club car park each morning and picking the kids up from there and taking them to school.

short term seems a good idea as hopefully it will ease the traffic on the estate.
but long term if that is to stay the car park i am wondering if that small road could cope with that amount of cars as one side is normally chock a block any way.

long term i still think there is a great need for a pedestrian crossing on that roads and signs stating that there is a school and speed limit signs as i had a good look round the other day and there is none up the whole of school road,nor is there any indication that there is a school.
Peter Dolman

lansdowne park

the approx 400 houses are in the parish of calne without and for a band d house pay approx £10 per year to calne without.
if you live in the parish of calne a band d house currently pays approx £125 per year to calne parish council. these houses would contribute approx £50,000 to calne town council!

the developers have sole responsibilty for all matters untill the development is handed over. the developers of the old fynamore secondary school took some 9 years before they handed over that development.

there is a need for some yellow lines and traffic control but what ever happens some people will benefit and others will not, unfortunately you cannot please all the people all the time!

I am certain that the residents of bremhill view would not appreciate increased traffic in what is a cul de sac.

the answer is more parents walking their children to school and if they cannot then moving to a school nearer to where they live.

we all want to minimise (or we should) our personal impact on global warming and using our cars less is one way of doing so.
Local lass

yellow lines would not work you would simpley be pushing the cars else where.

there does need to be a big decrease in the amount of cars .but also moving schools is not the answer.
you dont move schools just because you can not walk to it.
you move schools because of much better reasons than that.

safty is the key issue above all else .at present it is safer to drive to school in a car than it is to walk.

when those roads around the school become safer more people would walk
Bear

Fact My child goes to Fynamore School
Fact I have a valid road fund licence
Fact The road leading to the gates of the school is a public highway
Fact I will keep driving my child to the school gate until such time as there is a safe place for him to cross School Road and maybe if I so wish after that

Also I beleive that currently the government urges parents to send children to the school of choice at not the closest school therefore I have no guilt in travelling to the school by car at MY expense
Peter Dolman

lansdowne park

Bear I am not arguing against you my point is that the current rules are not sustainable and that things have to change.
What if the proposal to add another 4 classrooms at Fynamore actually happens.

Then you will see even more traffic.

Local Lass, what comes first the chicken or the egg. If people stopped driving now and walked to school and all those driving past perfectly good schools to get to Fynamore stopped doing so then the roads would be a lot safer. If we wait then nothing will happen, thats the way it is.

The local residents are there 24 hours a day 7 days a week.

Parents are there for 10 minutes twice a day 5 days a week for term time.

How would they like it if cars were parked on their drives or they could not go anywhere because someones blocked them in?
Local lass

the people who do block peoples drive ways and park in there driveyes that should be stopped i do agree in that.

for me fynamor is the only school i do pass on my route .

the daft thing is peter we both want the same thing  in the long run.
what i cant see helping if all the proposed  builds ie,the communitty centre ,and the four extra class rooms.

by extreme worry is that some one will get killed up there before long.

as for the residents ,they must have realised when they bought there houses there would be people parking because of the schools.
its a bit like moving to lynham then moaning about the noise of the planes.

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