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Chepfer

Do they need another runway there ?

I loved this one ..... campaigners have bought the land where the new runway was proppsed to be built.

They are planning on planting a vegatable plot there.

So.. Do Heathrow need a new runway or should it be built somewhere else if indeed it is ?


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/200901...ters-buy-runway-land-dba1618.html
rosco

Re: Do they need another runway there ?

Given the large amount of movement it has, whereas other airports have three or more  runways, I think little doubt that it does need it.

There is no viable alternative to air-travel for long distances, so just burying our head in the ground and refusing it's expansion will see other countries gain at the UK's expense.

Moves should continue to make airplanes more efficient and less polluting: having them circle around because there isn't a landing spot available is hardly the answer!
Local lass

who would want to grow veg so close top a  runway
Peter Dolman

we do not need more runways at heathrow. airtransport is subsidised in so far as aviation fuel does not have the same amount of duty as other means of transport, if it did we could not afford to fly as often as we do.
rosco

Peter Dolman wrote:
we do not need more runways at heathrow. airtransport is subsidised in so far as aviation fuel does not have the same amount of duty as other means of transport, if it did we could not afford to fly as often as we do.


Seems like the Government disagrees and has given the green light:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7829676.stm
GTB

I don't see there is a logical need for a new runway when the Government has been banging on about how it's going to cut all these emissions in the next decade or so. What better way to increase emissions than to create yet another major runway which will attract yet more flights.
rosco

GTB wrote:
I don't see there is a logical need for a new runway when the Government has been banging on about how it's going to cut all these emissions in the next decade or so. What better way to increase emissions than to create yet another major runway which will attract yet more flights.


I'd thought that would be achieved by bringing in more stringent levels for emissions from each plane...
GTB

..............as well as not having yet another runway.
Unknown

Wouldn't it be better to put a runway at an airport with less issues with congestion? Lyneham is closing soon. Turn that into a commercial airport instead.
Peter Dolman

this new runway is set to take another 250,000 flights(?) how can anyone claim that there will be less pollution is beyond me. even with less polluting engines there are still going to be more (flights) than there is today at a time when the government has pledged to drastically reduce ommissions.
it seems another case when politicians say one thing but mean another. its no wonder people don't trust them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rosco

Unknown wrote:
Wouldn't it be better to put a runway at an airport with less issues with congestion? Lyneham is closing soon. Turn that into a commercial airport instead.


Not really I think because the idea is that Heathrow is a 'hub': so a lot of people use it to change to other flights. None of the large carriers would be interested in flying somewhere else like Lyneham. Plus Lyneham has zero infrastructure for international commercial flights, so would need a huge investment (it's got no motorway or train connections for starters).
Chepfer

Though to develop the runway, villages will need to be demolished and new teminal will need to be devoloped and that in itself is amazingly costly.

Perhaps not Lyneham but somewhere like Hullavington, which is also due to close !!!!!.

Is close to the motorway, has good access routes to London in one direction and Bristol in the othe other as well as north and south routes.

It's ready to be built on and would bring jobs to an area that needs them.

I'm sure we must have this demand for another runway, i just think it could be considered somewhere else.
rosco

Chepfer wrote:
Though to develop the runway, villages will need to be demolished and new teminal will need to be devoloped and that in itself is amazingly costly.

Perhaps not Lyneham but somewhere like Hullavington, which is also due to close !!!!!.

Is close to the motorway, has good access routes to London in one direction and Bristol in the othe other as well as north and south routes.

It's ready to be built on and would bring jobs to an area that needs them.

I'm sure we must have this demand for another runway, i just think it could be considered somewhere else.


Might be close to motorway, but hasn't actually got a spur linking it it - cost would be horrendous...

Much of the UK's transportation system has London at it's hub anyway, so it's going to be extremely tough to decentralise from Heathrow.
Peter Dolman

the cost of this 3rd runway will be extremely high in financial  and emotional terms especially for those local residents who are going to be kicked out of their homes. Would you accept that treatment?

The road, rail and bus network to Heathrow is already overloaded and additional infrastructure will be needed to support this extra traffic gernerated by the additional 250,000 flights per year.

The legal costs of the public inquiry alone would pay for extra infrastructure to the likes of Hullavington.

To save costs you could scrap all those franchises at airport terminals (of course BAA would lose money) which means we might not have to check in so early!

The experts say we need more capacity but who can say what will happen in 10 or 15 years time. No on predicted the current economic problems so how can they be sure they have got it right?

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