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Local lass · Calnetalk Oracle Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 4792 Status:

in another section you wrote

Like the Social Club at Bremhill View what were you thinking? This would be an ideal building and position to deliver a top notch North Calne Community Centre if you or I get in we need to explore that, not as I was told you had thought, knock it down, the public there are quite cheesed off and the players and footbal club built it themselves, so are emotionally attached. Sorry I do not mean to sound patronising but please remember the golden rule representational politics is just that, it is not, or rather should not be, self indulgent or, dare I say it, particularly now, Political.

CAN I ASK WHAT YOUR VIEW IS REGARDING THE COMMUNITY CENTER THEY WANT TO BUILD IN NORTH CALNE?

Chuck · Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 10:45 pm Post subject:

My view is not important but if you want it I wnet there for a drink Saturday watched Man U pick up the title and I have to say it is a great club. I'd fight to keep it and I believe that is what the residents want, in fact I'd recommend a fight to extend it to include more for different ages in N Calne. Like all representatives I stand to be corrected by the public but that is how I feel today Sunday!

It's a great place, nice poeple, built by the community for the community it already has a place in my heart but, as I say, if the public don't think that then I have mis heard them so far. We have plenty of houses but not enough for their occupants to do moving or closing such close community facilities would be a wrong step, improving them a right step in my personal view but I'll fight for the majority view that is my job it's just easoer when the are both the same!

Chuck
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Chuck · Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 10:55 pm Post subject:

Sorry didn't answer your question I do not believe a community centre in the Sports Complex is right for now as it is to far outside the community (though I can see, though may not want,development one day on that side of the road as happens often).

The Bremhill View option would be a great one so more money more facilities there, or as Peter has said hiring or buying another option for example if the estate agent pull out of the Cafe - no to say it will but just an example of what I have thought. The Masons may be another option but it is almost too far. It will be up to us to talk debate and propose, once the communities ducks a re in a row we can really have a good go at getting it done the Council quakes at the tthought of petitions marches and public opinion if it is delivered strongly and that may be what we must do, but we will need to be in unison a divided public allows weakness to slide into the ranks and lowers the likelihood of victory so agree first then action.

My personal opnion is to improve what we have and perhaps look at a couple of additions but drop the sports centre option.

Chuck
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Chuck · Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 11:00 pm Post subject:

That means Town Council, Unitary Council representatives and the public (most importantly) must work together I think that sometimes that has not happened I am not sure where unison has been lost or why but I get that feeling there has been a gap which has stopped the right and popular thing from getting done.

Chuck
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Local lass · Calnetalk Oracle Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 4792 Status:

so do you agree or not about building a new community center on the playing field next to the north star>

Chepfer · Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 1:13 pm Post subject:

Tee Hee local,

Politicians at most levels are unable to understand the concept of the words Yes or no ......... not that i blame them !!!!!

Personally i would rather see the money spent on something the "Town needs or wants".

Perhaps this money would be better spent on a new childrens activity centre (like the one that shut) or help provide facilities for the new boxing academy or be spent on making all the childrens parks better or improving castle park (even more - with a proper facility for the scateboarders, bikers etc) ...

I dont know ..... but i do know that this looks all very .... hmnnn whats the words .... Ill managed at present.

Chuck · Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:20 pm Post subject:

I have spoken with North Star they are not keen personally I would favour it there or near the Bremhill Club. But to be frank and honest I'd prefer to ask those who run the clubs and live there first before I apply my size tens also we need to decide what we want it too include so boring though it may appear a bit of consultation will be required before we make a decision. I have not copped out though I have told you what my thoughts are and there is far better than across the bypass in the Sports Comple - sorry to tak my time I was out today til now.

Chuck
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Local lass · Calnetalk Oracle Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 4792 Status:

on this occassion i do agree with peter there is no need for a community center to be built especialy there.there are plenty of facilitys on hand to use.

Chuck · Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 5:18 am Post subject:

I see your point (and therefore sort of Peter's) , what is needed is to encourage the existing facilties to open up more and perhaps money for improvements would help convince them. For whatever reason there is qquite a strong level of support for a facility local to that area and I guess the feeling is North Star or Bremhill are not the vehicles for that as they stand now.

As I said before, uncourageously, the situation needs to be looked at and public opinion determined, as there was (is) Persimmon contributions set aside for provision and I do not agree (and its appears not to be popular)with the suggestion that the site should be at the Sports Complex.

Neither do I agree that Bremhill should be moved, knocked down and set up over there either, which is a view promoted previously by Peter. That Club is a really great local facility, but some parts of the community do not feel it is the right venue for them. A bit more work needs doing to determine the right route but I am pretty sure that the public are not keen on a facility addition across the road. If you are you will be the first to express that view and as perhaps you can tell by now I put myself forward as a conduit or enabler for public action and demand rather than (in general) an instigator so your views should all be part of the debate - a debate which once settled must lead to action which is where local politicians tend to fall down.

Hey ho as I have said before my opinion is of interest but it is not about me it is about the wider YOU, that is the view we need if it is a facility in that location then its exploration and the best value delivery should be explored. I prefer to paddle a canoe with the current! but also not straight at the rocks (or the waterfall!) assuming I (or anyone else) can see either of them!

Chuck
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Local lass · Calnetalk Oracle Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 4792 Status:

what ever the amount of people who do support a north part community center on that playing field there would be duble who oppose it for a variety of reasons.

the field in question is the biggest open space in north calne where kids can play safely,with balls,cricket, it is also used by numerous dog walkers.

access is a huge issue there .should the access come out on to school road roundabout it would turn arealdy dodgy junction in to a danergous juntion.
if the accsess is by the north star then that cuases a huge problem because it is used as a car park eventhough that section of the road is unadopted.

it seems to me that those who mostly want a community center in north calne are those who live on new estates.which is wrong .
im not saying that they should not have have one there just not on that field a more sutible site should be found .however those that do want it should look already what the town has to offer before we get a building what will mostly stand empty and will cost to much to run.